#### xj0hnx

##### I wanna be sedated
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That's the thing, nobody is going to market a "car that driving itself". That would mean they would accept liability when it fails.

Which is why I have trouble seeing it going anywhere.

#### klyph

##### Dismember
All they have to do is market it as a driving aid, and disclaimer the shit out of it.

*This system is know to the State of California to cause cancer, using this system may result in getting asploded...

#### civicious

##### Buck Futter
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How will it compensate for road crown, or variations in elevation in road surface that can cause a car to 'drift' to the right or the left? Whatabout slightly different tire pressures? Even with modern TPMS systems, the vehicle will allow around a +/- 3psi variation, and 6psi difference will easily cause a car to pull one way. And what about traffic stops? Someone has a license plate light out (lol), who does the ticket go to? And how does the officer even get the car to stop, if - say- the owner/operator is asleep?

Here's another scenario, creepy guy kidnaps a hot 16 year old he met online, duct tapes her up, puts her in the trunk of his driverless Prius (well, hatch...whatever), programs the computer to drive a gajillion miles away, hits start, and hops out of the car....if police locate the car, how are they going to pull it over to rescue the girl?

What if the car has a blowout while the driver is asleep? What if a component fails on the vehicle? Wheel bearing decides it's gonna take a vacation in Shoulderville, and falls the fuck off? What if the owner gets their tires rotated at Sears - even if it's by a guy that went to tire college?

It won't happen.

#### klyph

##### Dismember
How will it compensate for road crown, or variations in elevation in road surface that can cause a car to 'drift' to the right or the left? Whatabout slightly different tire pressures? Even with modern TPMS systems, the vehicle will allow around a +/- 3psi variation, and 6psi difference will easily cause a car to pull one way.
The system uses GPS and a camera that recognizes road striping to keep you in your lane.
And what about traffic stops? Someone has a license plate light out (lol), who does the ticket go to? And how does the officer even get the car to stop, if - say- the owner/operator is asleep?

Here's another scenario, creepy guy kidnaps a hot 16 year old he met online, duct tapes her up, puts her in the trunk of his driverless Prius (well, hatch...whatever), programs the computer to drive a gajillion miles away, hits start, and hops out of the car....if police locate the car, how are they going to pull it over to rescue the girl?

What if the car has a blowout while the driver is asleep? What if a component fails on the vehicle? Wheel bearing decides it's gonna take a vacation in Shoulderville, and falls the fuck off? What if the owner gets their tires rotated at Sears - even if it's by a guy that went to tire college?

It won't happen.
Like I said the notion of a car driving itself without an attentive operator is extremely unlikely to happen. Although you could have the system programmed to handle any of those contingencies rather easily. Cops would be able to send a command to your car to pull itself over. In the event of a catastrophic failure, the car would slow itself to a stop as safely as possible and sound an alarm. The system wouldn't function without someone in the driver seat. Etc.

#### 95b16coupe

##### Well-Known Member
fighter jets have this same feature using a targeting pod. it's full auto-pilot. it works TOO well. if you set your elevation to 1000ft above sea level, you stay there. if you get close to say, a mountain, it wont raise elevation until it reads that you are below 1000ft. and if you can't pull up fast enough...well....anway, pilots turn it off because it scares the shit out of them.

and klyph, to add to your point of failure or even getting pulled over, just think of the Onstar program. does the same thing. cops could call in your plates, car stops on it's own. it wouldnt' be too tough to set like this. especially with all of the unmanned technology we have.

#### civicious

##### Buck Futter
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just think of the Onstar program. does the same thing. cops could call in your plates, car stops on it's own.

But what if you don't pay for the subscription?

A good friend of mine had a new-ish Trailblazer SS with a fuckton of badassedry under the hood. His OnStar subscription expired 2 or 3 months ago, and he didn't renew it because he never used it. It got stolen last week, and he was informed that the onstar couldn't be activated in order to locate the vehicle unless it was reactivated from the vehicle itsself.

#### 95b16coupe

##### Well-Known Member
But what if you don't pay for the subscription?

either government mandate or just a free service funded by the manufacturer and passed down through the price of the car. 99% of it could be automated. we don't need to have it call a person. i can just picture a cop there with an iphone and typing in a plate number, then clicking "safely disable engine" and carrying on throughout the stop.

take it at face value. the douche bag cop thread is a separate topic.

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