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Sergey P.A. · 02-14-2004, 02:56 AM

ok I went to a performance shop today, and they had some new and weird shit, I don't know if it's new but its funking owesome,
1st one, I saw some TODA cams and I asked the guys what kind of cams are thise and he said its a VTEC killer cams, I was like yeah right cuz the cams had only the side lobes,no middle one, but the lobes were oversized, he said that this are cams for drag racing strait, not for street use, and he also said that the vtec is on all the time with this shit, so if you kknow what it is can somebody expayin it to me,

2nd thing is I say a IM which basically had a throtle body for each cilinder, that's not new to me, if somebody know's what I am talking about here explain pleaze
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H22AdelSol · 02-14-2004, 03:41 AM

You mean individual throttle bodies?

Sergey P.A. · 02-14-2004, 03:46 AM

yeah, and how this thing works, it doesnt have a intake, or this thing is for DragSters only,

E_SolSi · 02-14-2004, 05:08 AM

yes you can run an air box with ITBs
generally you need to run a full standalone for ITBs (as far as i know hondata can not deal with them)

VTEC killer cams are pretty much exactly what he said
it would be equivalent to running an LS head with VERY agressive cams
no VTEC engagement... basicly high lobes 100% of the time

97CTR · 02-14-2004, 06:26 AM

VTEC "killer" cams= no vtec, it got killed

civicious · 02-14-2004, 12:08 PM

on ITB's, how would you wire that up? like where would you put map/tps/iat sensors and your vacuum lines and such?

Sergey P.A. · 02-15-2004, 03:05 AM

man the ITB's are crazy, kinda expensive though,

Sergey P.A. · 02-15-2004, 03:08 AM

...and you don't kill the VTEC, you have it, but it's allways on, that's not like for street use when you use it only when you need it, that's for Dragsters Only,

pissedoffsol · 02-16-2004, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by civicious@Feb 14 2004, 12:08 PM
on ITB's, how would you wire that up? like where would you put map/tps/iat sensors and your vacuum lines and such?

depends on the model.

most, you have to vacuum port in. standalone time.

97CTR · 02-16-2004, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sergey P.A.@Feb 15 2004, 03:08 AM
...and you don't kill the VTEC, you have it, but it's allways on, that's not like for street use when you use it only when you need it, that's for Dragsters Only,

wrong, you don't have vtec anymore, you have only one cam lobe, with no lobe change over that means no vtec lobe. if you want to call it constant vtec go ahead.

E_SolSi · 02-16-2004, 04:09 PM

look.... these are explained right on todas fucking website

just go there and read

http://www.todaracing.com/products/honda_b...tec_killer.html

CRX_B16B · 02-16-2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by 97CTR+Feb 16 2004, 07:50 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(97CTR @ Feb 16 2004, 07:50 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sergey P.A.@Feb 15 2004, 03:08 AM
...and you don't kill the VTEC, you have it, but it's allways on, that's not like for street use when you use it only when you need it, that's for Dragsters Only,

wrong, you don't have vtec anymore, you have only one cam lobe, with no lobe change over that means no vtec lobe. if you want to call it constant vtec go ahead. [/b][/quote]
you'll have two cam lobes with the TODA vtec killer (im pretty sure) and only one with the crane cams vtec killer which requires special rockers so you never have the vtec function with these. just really big cams.

JDMilan · 02-16-2004, 04:56 PM

exactly what E said, and go visit his link

have a nice day

pissedoffsol · 02-17-2004, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CRX_B16B@Feb 16 2004, 04:19 PM

you'll have two cam lobes with the TODA vtec killer (im pretty sure)

no, you won't.

kennyrocks · 10-31-2006, 11:34 PM

<quote>1. The Primary and secondary lobes are designed to be the same size.</quote>

off toda's web site
so yeah 2 lobes

eg6sir · 11-01-2006, 12:11 AM

wow noob.. 2 1/2 yrs old..

02-14-2004, 02:56 AM	#1
Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	ok I went to a performance shop today, and they had some new and weird shit, I don't know if it's new but its funking owesome, 1st one, I saw some TODA cams and I asked the guys what kind of cams are thise and he said its a VTEC killer cams, I was like yeah right cuz the cams had only the side lobes,no middle one, but the lobes were oversized, he said that this are cams for drag racing strait, not for street use, and he also said that the vtec is on all the time with this shit, so if you kknow what it is can somebody expayin it to me, 2nd thing is I say a IM which basically had a throtle body for each cilinder, that's not new to me, if somebody know's what I am talking about here explain pleaze <_< __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

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H22AdelSol Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: san diego, california Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	You mean individual throttle bodies? __________________ <span style=\'color:red\'><span style=\'font-family:Geneva\'>94 JDM H22A\|5spd-LSD\|GSR Spec Brembo Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors\| GSR Front Calipers\| SS Lines\|Tokico Illumina Struts\| Skunk2 Coilovers\| AEM Fuel Rail\| ACT Stage 3 Clutch /w Xtreme Pressure Plate\| 8lb Kaiten Kairu Super Flywheel</span></span>

02-14-2004, 03:46 AM	#3
Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	yeah, and how this thing works, it doesnt have a intake, or this thing is for DragSters only, __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

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97CTR Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 745 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 20	VTEC "killer" cams= no vtec, it got killed __________________ 97 ex coupe Wire tuck in progress....

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02-15-2004, 03:05 AM	#7
Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	man the ITB's are crazy, kinda expensive though, __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

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Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	...and you don't kill the VTEC, you have it, but it's allways on, that's not like for street use when you use it only when you need it, that's for Dragsters Only, __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

02-16-2004, 04:56 PM	#13
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	exactly what E said, and go visit his link have a nice day __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

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kennyrocks Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	duh... <quote>1. The Primary and secondary lobes are designed to be the same size.</quote> off toda's web site so yeah 2 lobes

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