I have 3 kids and one more on the way....when they screw up they pay. I never had to "beat" my kids they listen. They have to fear you to understand if they screw up its gonna be bad. For instance my son hit some kid in school with his bookbag screwing around, they gave him afterschool detention for a hour, last night I made him empty a trunkload of firewood and stack it neatly. He learned a good lesson.