first of all, im not a honda guy. im into domestics. but thats beside the point. ive red up this and that on all sorts of cars, including hondas, so i kinda know my way around. a friend of mine has a 4th gen 'lude. hes under the impression that he can "build up" an all motor jdm h22 to 400 hp. he will be able to run 92 octane, idle below 1000 rpm, and still get better-than-suv gas mielage. he will use this car to drive the 150 miles back and forth form school, drive every day aroudn town, and race on weekends. oh, and this setup will run 11's in the quarter. even s this was possible, i thought ludes are about 3000 lbs? youll need more that that to run a 1.5 ton front driver in the 11's, right? some guy at the races, who claims to build race motors says he can do this for him. he gives no specs on the comproession, heads, or cam he will use. now, he (friend) doesnt know diddly squat about cars, and is buddies form home feed him s**t all the time. stuff liek "awsome quad turbo preludes theyve seen", and he seems to be under the impression that "prelude mtotos are built for quad turbo" (his exact words), which leads to hair pulling on my part. he thinks that there is some bolt ont he engine that you can turn to just give you more power. i tell him its a honda, "nothing on a honda has been controlled by a bolt or nut for 20 years (am i right?), its all self-calibrating electronics." he wont belive me. he just gives his car to his firneds,and they "tune" it, putting in no parts, jsut "changing things around". he thinks that an ecu upgrade is the best thing you can do for the money to a motor for more power. seriosly, i dont think he knows what a camshaft is, or what it does. they DID remove the resonator form the intake, givign his car that "elephant farting though a tuba sound" he so craves. i do know my way around cars in general, and that doesnt seem possible to me. he and i are in a very heated debate about this, but i have littel specific info. so far, its just a pissing match. what CAN you do n/a with h22? i guess 300 hp can be doen with the above reqs, but 400? anybody got actual buildups with numbers? and another thing, can someone with a huge post count PLEASE say that there is no such thing as a quad turbo prelude. or if by some cosmic trageedy such a thing does exist, say that that is the dumbest thign ever, and why? he wont beilve me. ill show him this thread, and i need to set him straight.