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Anyone remember me getting fucked by Outlaw MS?

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  1. civicious

    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    Last year, I got fucked out of a grand by Outlaw Motorsports in Dallas. A few weeks ago, I sent Jake (the former owner) this email:

    Hello Jake. How's it been going? Haven't heard from
    you in a while, oh, it must've been when you screwed
    me out of a grand. No hard feelings about that, right?
    Right, Jake? I'm dealing with Phillip at Intercrew
    now...He's a really great guy. He said he's heard of
    you before. Too bad your shop didn't make it, huh
    Jake?

    I got my four-door running. All by myself too! And I
    didn't even use the wrong harness you gave me, or the
    Ls intake manifold you gave me, or the 99 EX ecu that
    you gave me. I put an ITR tranny on it and it ran a
    14.80 on street tires. On street tires, Jake! Then I
    rolled it 3 times doing 150 down a back road and
    totaled it.

    Now I've got an 89 hatchback with a b20/vtec in it.
    Pretty cool, eh, Jake? Phillip is boring out my block
    as we speak. Great stuff, huh! It should put down
    around 240 to the wheels, tuned with Hondata. Great
    stuff, eh, Jake?!?

    Well, I just thought I'd say hi. Like I said, no hard
    feelings about you screwing me out of $1000 that I had
    to sell almost everything that I owned to get, right?
    Right, Jake? I still have my receipt that you wrote me
    up for the B16A2 head and the wiring, that shows that
    I paid $500. I've also got my receipt from Junior, the
    landlord, that shows that I had to pay him another
    $500 to get my still-not-running car back from him.
    How about that? Gee, that'd make for a great lawsuit,
    wouldn't it Jake? Too bad I don't know any good
    lawyers...BUT WAIT! My DAD happens to be a lawyer! My
    very own father! I'm sure he'd be THRILLED about all
    this, don't you think, Jake? Man, but I'd need
    witnesses in court, huh...

    Oh yeah, by the way, I've been in contact with the guy
    that bought your CRX. He's not very happy, either,
    Jake. In fact, he wants to break both of your arms. I
    think thats kind of harsh.

    Let me put it this way for you, Jake. If I don't
    receive either an email or a phone call within the year,
    I'm pressing charges. My number is
    (936)465-3629. But you remembered that, right?

    -Wil

    Today, I got this response from him:

    Will,
    It's Jake,first let me say I am sorry to hear that you feel I did you wrong somehow.I never wanted you to feel this way,I know you purchased some parts from my shop I do not remember the exact circumnstances involved at the moment.I remember you purchased an engine which you attempted to put in yourself.I do not want you to feel I did you wrong and this is why I am emailing.I no longer have a computer so it is not very often I check my email,this is why it has taken me till today to get back with you.I am sorry you wrecked your car,that is unfortunate.My business went backrupt and I have been struggling ever since.I do not know what charges you could or would want to press against me.It is good you have a fast car,I had to sell all of my vehicles .I am glad you met Phillip he does SOME people alright.Well I do not know what you want to hear or do so go ahead and respond.PLease explain exactly what you think I did or did not do and I will be glad to discuss this further with you.
    Thanks,
    Jacob



    Advice, anyone?
     
  2. importjdmcivic

    importjdmcivic Its the NUGE!

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    Id press charges...get to business
     
  3. civicious

    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    I actually don't have the receipt anymore...I lost it when I moved...

    oops.
     
  4. 92civicb18b1

    92civicb18b1 The Trisexual

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    Fuck him, he screwed you over, press chrages.

    I'm not even the one to do that shit, I hate cops and judges with a passion, but in your situation i would
     
  5. brian11to1

    brian11to1 Senior Member

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    Fak Yea. Du iT W1ll. Very well written Email, y0.
     
  6. sohcslammer

    sohcslammer Senior Member

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    He responded at least. I don't know the circumstances but it seems like he is willing to work with you. Or maybe he just doesn't want to get sued. Either way, write him back and see where he wants to go with this.
     
  7. civicious

    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    Knowing this dude, he's just covering his ass.

    I wrote him back a rational email explaining what happened.

    Now to wait for him to respond.
     
  8. brian11to1

    brian11to1 Senior Member

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    ask him if he has any JG edelbrock cam ears for B series...
     
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    soooo you make all those claims with no proof to back it up? youll have a tough time proving it.
     
  10. civicious

    civicious FüK-VTEC VIP

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    I don't actually plan on taking it to court....


    And I DO have documentation from the landlord about what happened, plus there are SEVERAL other people I've talked to who he screwed.....
     
  11. hcivic.com

    hcivic.com Senior Member

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    if he had a busnees and it was set up he will not be liable for expenses personaly only yht ebus will be
     
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    ...just a question. Do you, like, post and beat it at the same time?
     
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    That would explain so much, but sadly, that is him actually trying.
     
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    GSRCRXsi Super Moderator Moderator VIP

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    even if you were thinking of taking this to court, if you dont have the reciepts anymore then you are SOL. no proof=no case. that would be like me suing you for the 1000 dollar block you sold me. you didnt sell me a block? my point exactly. i dont think hes gonna willingly hand over 1k to you by you threatening him. sorry man.
     
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    he may take the bluff and try to settle out of court though.
     
  17. phunky.buddha

    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    give it up.. legal fees alone for a NON small claims claim isn't worth it, he's out of business.. live and learn
     
  19. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    if the businesses was set up as an LLC, you CANNOT touch his personal cash. and since the business is bankrupt and no more, there's nothing to get after him there either.
    if, however, the business was set up as a sole proprietorship, you MAY be able to link the business to his cash.

    either way, from the sounds of it, he's broke like a druggie on coke, and court fees will probably cost more than what you could get out of him.
     
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    try to prove to him what he did u wrong on maybe he has some parts lying around you can use now in exchange for "not bringing him to court" but who knows he might be just blowing you off
     
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