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b16 head onto zc block?

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> ED-EF / DA' started by cheese9988, Feb 13, 2004.

  1. cheese9988

    cheese9988 Senior Member VIP

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    I was interested to see if a vtext head could be swapped onto a zc block. new computer and obd(x) would have to be wired I know. Would everything line up? Would hp be about the same more/less and how is the bottom end on the zc compared to a reg b16 with vtec?
     
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    new comer you can b and d serious are different and it can't be done
     
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    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    negative.

    and its vtec, not vtext. it doesn't read.
     
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    cheese9988 Senior Member VIP

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    ahh, thanks, thats all I wanted to know :spin:
     
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    cheese9988 Senior Member VIP

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    Sorry that was a typo ;)
     
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    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    The bore center spacing is completely different... always check that the first time you think of a new head/block combination of ANY sort.
     
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    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    :wtf: :imgone:
     
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    its about something id ask,
    i mean, wtf are zc, why do they make them, they are like half b series and half d series but only work with d stuff

    somebody also told me they use b series axels? wtf???
     
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    From what I understand, they came from the JDM CRX Base model.

    A (not are) ZC engine is a 1.6 DOHC non-vtec engine that produces @130hp.

    Yes, they use Integra Axles.

    No, they dont still make them...

    They are very similar to an Older Integra engine, but not exactly the same. (I dont know the differences, So dont ask)

    They cant take a lot of abuse... Ive seen my share of blown ZCs (the bottom end is too weak)

    They are cheep to buy, and In my opinion, not worth the time or money.
     
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    brian11to1 Senior Member

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    they are not half B and half D they are full blown D series engines with B series traits...
     
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    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    :werd:

    The only real similarity the DOHC ZC has with a B series block is the number of cams- two. Other than that, it's a D series engine. It uses the same bore and stroke as a D16, has the same crank and rod journal sizes, uses the same length rods and compression height pistons etc...
     
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    well since im werking on the writeup for my site check it out and remind me if ive made mistakes.. :)

     
  13. xj0hnx

    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    Here you go.

    That's a link to Honda Open Terrace website. It is Honda model archive, and it has hte specs on just about every Honda to date, maybe some of the newer ones aren't updated yet, but it will work for you. Engine codes, chassis codes, PS and Kg (you'll have to do some converting to Hp and torque), everything.

    Run the webaddress in the webaddress line of this translator, and select Japanese to english and you should be able to navigate the site in english. You can fill in the voids.

    And finally someone is right about the brown top ZC. I was told by someone that it was the weakest one of DOHC's, and past one up for $50 complete swap, kick myself in the ass everyday for that one bcause it would have made my US spec SI one hell of a fun ride back in the states.
     
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    Check out www.thezcr.com they can tell you every thing you wana know about the zc. ZC's arnt that weak really for boost you could run 7 pounds if you tune it right. B series and D series dont ever match up to my knowlege.

    Jeramy
     
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    naa dat aint tru y0, you can take spark plugs from a B and swap them into a ZC
    ;)
    seriously though, im not a big fan of the ZC i recommend the D15b sohc vtec over the ZC, they put down the same HP numbers and in the real world experience, they are just as fast, plus the upsides are

    d15b shorter stroke- can hold high rpms a little better

    the best thing is that its a little newer and more reliable also, i had a d15b in my EG for 8 months this thing spent more time past 7k then at idle, :D and i hadnt had a single problem, i put it in my GF car, and its still runnin tits
     
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    ZC engines are 'not really' D-series, it may have the same spec as D-series but only available in DOHC non-VTEC spec rated at 130ps.

    At the engine block stamped ZC... not D16 or whatsoever. :p
     
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    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    Dude, get a clue, or don't post here.

    Read any one of the links above and then go lick your wounds.
     
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    0wN3d!!!
    ZC is D end of story.
     
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    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    Stop, halt. They are D series family, but there are differences in them enough to get the ZC stamp.
     
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    the sohc ZC is a d16a6 with just a bigger cam, other then that it is all Pm6 block, pistons, everything.
     
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