Jdubspeeds
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I am doing a right hand drive sir conversion to my 91 hatchback. Anyone know of a good dealer to get it from pref on west coast
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SleEPeR_CRX
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well i dont know any GOOD shops, but i know where u can find shops. its called www.ebay.com then put in Sir front clip for ur search and ur bound to get a few shops/people that do it, once u get their name, bring it hear and as if its a good shop or not. i know Redshift Racing/ Spi tuning up here in Vancouver used to import SiR front clips but im not sure if they do anymore. ill check that out and repost.
Jdubspeeds
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I bought the car with the intent to do a righ hand drive. Its no being ricey to do a complete change over. Im hoping it will be challenging and something a little different than the norm. I agree Jdming is the rave lately, but thats not why im doing it. Its just something Ive always wanted to do.
-Justin
Civics West
-Justin
Civics West
hcivic.com
Senior Member
do you know how hard it is to re wire an entire car ya it taken just under three weeks now and I am just finishing up( one small electric fire and now I am spending all this time)
you also need to have really good welding skills as well as a plasma cutter to remove the fire walls because everything needs to be moved to the opposite side plus to have it recertified is a huge hassle and goanna cost a shit load so save the money and put it in the engine
you also need to have really good welding skills as well as a plasma cutter to remove the fire walls because everything needs to be moved to the opposite side plus to have it recertified is a huge hassle and goanna cost a shit load so save the money and put it in the engine
SleEPeR_CRX
Senior Member
who cares if its the new rice, he isnt trying to prove his car is fast, nor is he some ricer driving around with a stock d16 thinking his car is fast, its his dream as he said to make a rhd car, so who cares. it might be impractical, but so is buying a 50000 SUV then driving it on the road. he didnt ask ur opinion he asked for shops, so let the guy build his car, if u have advice give it, but dont BS him for his choice.
Jdubspeeds
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BTW thanks for the comment man, and wtf with all the haters damn! Ok so if you recommend i just buy a RHD car then does anyone know where to get one? Ive considered it as well. Im usually good at finding where to get stuff, but finding a place that can get me the car is a no go so far. BTW where do all the dude that import honda engines and stuff get their stuff from? Im opening a shop soon and im thinking of buying some motors. And as for the comment about the rhd swap, yes i know whats involved in doing so, yes i can weld, and actually yes i do have a plasma cutter.
Civic_88ls
Senior Member
yeah swapping one on urself is not very safe. i have recently seen a 91 sir on sale for 4500 on the net and it had like 50k km on it. not bad. the only bad thing is i cant remember where i saw it. there out there tho. just search for japanese cars or something . i cant remember what i did.
You don't weld the front clip to a US spec car, it can be done keeping the chassis intact, here, it is a waste of time, but if you want to have fun....
First I will say that having a RHD car in a LHD country is a pain in the ass, and not worth the time andmoney it would take to convert it, or import one. But if you have to do it than do it right, here is a how to on it...
Ive seen a lot of threads asking about Right Hand Drive conversions and how to this or that... well, ive helped a couple of friends do RHD (2 EG's & 1 DC) conversions so I thought id throw in my $0.02.
Hope this helps...
-Take the dash and everything on it and under it out of both cars (the doner and the donee), including wiring, the pedal assembly's, master cylinders, fuel lines. You dont have to take the motor out (of either car) but it would make it a lot easier if you do.
-You have to be sooo carfull with this step. Take a dremel or an angle grinder with a good grinding wheel, and strip off all of the caulking off both firewalls so you have a nice, clean surface to drill/weld/paint/work with. I make about a 3-4 inch path to work with. I grind the caulking, plus about an inch on each side of it.
Heres the tricky part...
Take a drill (the bit should be about the size of your pinky finger), and drill out all of the spot welds along the base of the firewall... starting from the uppermost part of either side of the firewall (by the hood hinge) then work your way down, over, and up to the other side. There are about 25-30 or so from one side to the other. Once the spot weld are drilled out, then firewall should be kind of loose if not totally free to lift out. There may be a couple of hang ups, so drill them or cut them out if you have to. BE CAREFULLLL!!!! You dont want to bent/crease/fuck up the firewall in any way.
Once the firewall is completely out of the car, clean up the holes you drilled of any excess metal as best as possible so, again, you have a clean surface to work with... do the same on the cars chassis where the firewall once was.
-You still have to be so carefull here. Take some metal (alluminum) of about the same thickness as the firewall, and cut small 2"x2" sections out. Clamp the 2x2 sections onto the firewall over the old spot welds, and weld them on. Dont over heat and warp the firewall. Once all the 2x2's are welded on, then re-finish the spot weld areas with some metal working tools (metal hammer, bell, etc.) so you look like you have a complete firewall again without holes. Do the same on the cars chassis where the firewall was. You want to make it look like there never was a firewall there before and you are putting one in for the first time.
-Place the refinished (rhd) firewall into the refinished (lhd) car chasis. It should slide into place so to speak fairly easy. Once you have it aligned to where you want it... clamp it into place on each side of the top of the firewall (by the hood hinges).
-Make a couple of spot welds to secure it where you want it. BAM! Start making spot welds at every spot the factory spot welds were before (I think its about every 5-6 inches). Once the rhd firewall is in place, re caulk it like factory caulking and get it ready for paint.
Everything else is cake, just tedious.
Put the car back together using all of your rhd parts (dash and everything that goes with it, all of the rhd stuff that goes on the firewall like the master cylinder, fuel lines, and if hydro, the hydrolic lines).
***Heres are a couple of tidbits I ran into along the way and some things that helped me…
-I took the gas tank out & made sure that ALL of the fuel was out of the system. This may sound like an extra un neccessary step, but I wanna make sure im not going to have a fuel fire in the car when im working on it.
-I do take the motors out just because I like the work room if needed (not to mention im a big guy).
-I always got fucked up on the cars wiring.Since i was dealing with having a rhd engine bay & under dash wire harness, but a lhd interior wire harness. I would turn on the left blinker & the right blinker would come on in the back and on the side marker, but the left blinker would turn on up front.Stuff like that. If you have a rear wire harness, your stoked. Otherwise, its just trial & error.
-Make sure you have the rhd trunk relase and hood release cable and other misc stuff like that. Otherwise its a big pain in the ass.
-When your welding and taking out or putting in the rhd firewall, dont bend / crease / warp it. It will never come out right again.
-Lastly, but not least... check with your local laws about making sure you do this the legal way in regards to proper placement of VIN's and DMV registration.
Have fun!
Credit = Micro
First I will say that having a RHD car in a LHD country is a pain in the ass, and not worth the time andmoney it would take to convert it, or import one. But if you have to do it than do it right, here is a how to on it...
Ive seen a lot of threads asking about Right Hand Drive conversions and how to this or that... well, ive helped a couple of friends do RHD (2 EG's & 1 DC) conversions so I thought id throw in my $0.02.
Hope this helps...
-Take the dash and everything on it and under it out of both cars (the doner and the donee), including wiring, the pedal assembly's, master cylinders, fuel lines. You dont have to take the motor out (of either car) but it would make it a lot easier if you do.
-You have to be sooo carfull with this step. Take a dremel or an angle grinder with a good grinding wheel, and strip off all of the caulking off both firewalls so you have a nice, clean surface to drill/weld/paint/work with. I make about a 3-4 inch path to work with. I grind the caulking, plus about an inch on each side of it.
Heres the tricky part...
Take a drill (the bit should be about the size of your pinky finger), and drill out all of the spot welds along the base of the firewall... starting from the uppermost part of either side of the firewall (by the hood hinge) then work your way down, over, and up to the other side. There are about 25-30 or so from one side to the other. Once the spot weld are drilled out, then firewall should be kind of loose if not totally free to lift out. There may be a couple of hang ups, so drill them or cut them out if you have to. BE CAREFULLLL!!!! You dont want to bent/crease/fuck up the firewall in any way.
Once the firewall is completely out of the car, clean up the holes you drilled of any excess metal as best as possible so, again, you have a clean surface to work with... do the same on the cars chassis where the firewall once was.
-You still have to be so carefull here. Take some metal (alluminum) of about the same thickness as the firewall, and cut small 2"x2" sections out. Clamp the 2x2 sections onto the firewall over the old spot welds, and weld them on. Dont over heat and warp the firewall. Once all the 2x2's are welded on, then re-finish the spot weld areas with some metal working tools (metal hammer, bell, etc.) so you look like you have a complete firewall again without holes. Do the same on the cars chassis where the firewall was. You want to make it look like there never was a firewall there before and you are putting one in for the first time.
-Place the refinished (rhd) firewall into the refinished (lhd) car chasis. It should slide into place so to speak fairly easy. Once you have it aligned to where you want it... clamp it into place on each side of the top of the firewall (by the hood hinges).
-Make a couple of spot welds to secure it where you want it. BAM! Start making spot welds at every spot the factory spot welds were before (I think its about every 5-6 inches). Once the rhd firewall is in place, re caulk it like factory caulking and get it ready for paint.
Everything else is cake, just tedious.
Put the car back together using all of your rhd parts (dash and everything that goes with it, all of the rhd stuff that goes on the firewall like the master cylinder, fuel lines, and if hydro, the hydrolic lines).
***Heres are a couple of tidbits I ran into along the way and some things that helped me…
-I took the gas tank out & made sure that ALL of the fuel was out of the system. This may sound like an extra un neccessary step, but I wanna make sure im not going to have a fuel fire in the car when im working on it.
-I do take the motors out just because I like the work room if needed (not to mention im a big guy).
-I always got fucked up on the cars wiring.Since i was dealing with having a rhd engine bay & under dash wire harness, but a lhd interior wire harness. I would turn on the left blinker & the right blinker would come on in the back and on the side marker, but the left blinker would turn on up front.Stuff like that. If you have a rear wire harness, your stoked. Otherwise, its just trial & error.
-Make sure you have the rhd trunk relase and hood release cable and other misc stuff like that. Otherwise its a big pain in the ass.
-When your welding and taking out or putting in the rhd firewall, dont bend / crease / warp it. It will never come out right again.
-Lastly, but not least... check with your local laws about making sure you do this the legal way in regards to proper placement of VIN's and DMV registration.
Have fun!
Credit = Micro
Jdubspeeds
Senior Member
Wow dude, thats for the advice, I never thought about just swapping firewalls, your smart 
Thats for all the info guys i really appreciate it.
Thats for all the info guys i really appreciate it.