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Cars to have Manditory "Black Boxes"

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by Cashizslick, May 27, 2011.

  1. Cashizslick

    Cashizslick !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!

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    Sweeeeet. Now all cars are going to get gps trackable black boxes by the end of the year.

    Autos Insider | U.S. to propose mandatory vehicle 'black boxes' | The Detroit News

     
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    I read "proposed" and "devices already in use" and immediately stopped caring.
     
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    why are we spending money on this?
    :disgust1:
     
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    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

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    we'll fucking see about that.
     
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    theoretically - we are spending money on this so they can better investigate and determine the cause of an accident...

    unofficially, its just another way to track us and pin us to crimes we may have, or may have not committed /tinfoilhat
     
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    99sidude Moderator Moderator VIP

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    Just more ways your government is making cars more expensive.

    -Soon ALL cars will be required to have a backup camera. Camera + monitor +circuitry&controls = $$$
    -The average new car has over $1000 in precious metals for the catalytic converters. That is the automaker's cost.
    -Goverment comes up with new crash test modes every year. Latest are roof crush (simulate falling off a brige and landing on roof), and offset pole (sliding sideways into tree at high speed). Everyone wants that "5 Star" rating, so cars coming out will have pounds and pounds of extra steel. That is good for cost and FE.... A "5 Star" rated car 4 years ago would not meet the latest min. allowable crash regulations...

    Let darwin do his work

    /rant
     
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    ^^^ lmao, so young and yet so jaded
     
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    i didnt see anything about GPS tracking?

    and since its already in use in some forms in a lot of cars, and probably just records 30-60s of data and just keeps overwriting itself with the newest data. doesnt really seem like a big deal IMO.

    but i am against the "automation" of some aspects of cars. i dont want a car that drives itself. i dont want a car that takes the fun and control away from the driver.
     
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    i approve this post, 100%


    we are becoming the minority, most people see driving as an inconvenient daily task.


    personally, i think we should go back to the standards of the pre 90's

    want to be safe? dont crash. somebody else hit you? tough, thats part of the game.
     
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    Vehicle velocity is one of the main things these boxes are going to look out for.

    If the boxes dont have GPS initially, they soon will. Here’s why:

    1.) Velocity can be determined by the vehicle’s spedo, however determining it via GPS is more accurate.
    2.) If the box is ejected from the vehicle, it can easily be found with GPS.
    3.) The government already has GPS in your phone but not everybody brings their phone with them. Your car is next on their list. After they get your car, its your body they’ll be after . . . (this will probably take a while).
     
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    not really, all they have to do is put out a scare tactic for everybody to get in line for a "immunization" and put a small microchip in there and say the pain was from the huge needle going in your ass.

    Measles Outbreak

    or drop one in during a surgery.

    and then, start putting that shit in right after birth when the doctors have the baby away from the parents already. wouldnt take long for everybody to get one without knowing it.
     
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    I think its a stretch to believe that we all are chipped and nobody knows it.

    /ot
     
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    if youre all that paranoid, go get checked for nanochips. youre probably already bugged!
     
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    i dont believe we are, just that it wouldnt be hard for them to do so if they choose.
     
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    Having people do something voluntarily is easier than forcing them to do it. The way to get people to do something is to make it look like a good idea.

    People voluntarily put all their personal information into a database because they think its a good idea (social networking). They are about to give google all their financial info because it also looks like a good idea (smartphone nfc pmt scheme). Same with these boxes. They will be pitched to the public as a great idea that saves lives and proves innocence during an accident.
     
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    The trick is to hide your black box when you crash so the FAA can spend 10 months looking for it at sea :ph34r:
     
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    I think its more to standardize the data and how to read it than to put us-gov regulation boxes in every car. However, I do see someone coming up with the genius plan that if you keep an actual "black box" in your car, you pay less for insurance/taxes. But that opens the door for big brother and mileage taxation.
     
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    yeah, and mileage taxation has already been in discussion, has it not?
    the only positive i can see from this is locating a car after it has been stolen.
    however; youd need some police that are interested in more than meeting their traffic violation quota for the month in order for this to be an effective means of recovering a stolen vehicle before it is damaged.
     
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    if there is a wire, there is a means to bypass.
     
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