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Civic Wagon 4WD

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> ED-EF / DA' started by psi, Feb 8, 2007.

  1. psi

    psi Junior Member

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    I saw a Civic Wagon on sale today and it is a '88. I am asking if there is any history of a B series swap done to this particular car before buying it. I am pretty sure any D series engine will fit. And if a B series swap is possible, will there be complication with the AWD system and the B series tranny/engine.
     
  2. tunedhonda-ata

    tunedhonda-ata im turbo bitch!!!!

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    man that would be nice to do an 89 ls integra swap into it..it will bolt up to the single cam tranny.. then turbo that thing..
     
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    Yeah, I agree, I think it would be easier to stick to D series. A built/turbo'ed D16 AWD would be pretty cool!

    :)
     
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    tunedhonda-ata im turbo bitch!!!!

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    yeah the old 89 integras are d-series and dual cam, it should also plug into the wire harness
    well atleast i think it is the 89.. what ever year has pop up headlights
     
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    The D16A1's will NOT be a direct bolt in swap. The driver side mount is completely different. You'd be better off going with a DOHC ZC. I've been thinking about building one of these for a while now but I can't find a good FWD one near me. I want FWD because i want to do a B Series swap and I don't know if you can run the AWD wagons with just the rear drive shaft disconnected.
     
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    You can shove a B engine in there with a B to D adapter. Better yet, try an H.
     
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    So, I'm guessing a ZC set up is the easiest with a turbo. Now my question is what is the difficulty level in doing this conversion/swap?
     
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    not to sure but the dohc ZC should bolt to the tranny in the car
     
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    Okay for the earlier posts, H series is just way too complicated. Its too much work for the power gain. B series is more cost effective but still requires a lot of work. Now the ZC, from what I am now getting is the most bang for the buck. Or I could just swap it with a electric engine so I can have a 0-60 in 3.5 sec. But then the cost of a electric car is like what? Somewhere in the $12k range.
     
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    that AWD wont hold up to much power though
     
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    It's not too bad if you use the stock drivetrain with the stock D transmission.
     
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    Why won't the AWD hold up to the power boost? Isn't there like a upgrade for the drive train to support the higher HP?
     
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    Is it because the parts are "old" and that its a '88? Anyways, I have not bought that civic yet and the individual was "pressuring" me to make the purchase on the spot. I do not like to be pressure and all that. Especially when I am going to spend more than $1k to buy it. But thanks for the input on the upgrade options for such a old car.
     
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    If you're being pressured to buy the car and you're not comfortable, always pass on it. Don't be bullied into a purchase that you're not sure you're going to be happy about.

    As far as transmission strength- I don't know personally, but most believe that the old wagon AWD systems just weren't designed to handle much power, and that the torque split to the rear was only 10%.
     
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    That is why I never called the guy back. I dislike being pressured to get something that is a big dollar item. And why is it 10% rear?? That is so lame. I thought it was like closer to 50/50 or something like it.
     
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    Like I said, I'm not sure- I've never seen anything official about it. That's just the accepted number that everyone goes by, and I'm sure there's quite a bit of proof saying that the rear only gets 10%- I've just never seen it.

    10% to the rear would be enough to make sure that the car maintains traction in some slippery areas.
     
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    Well, "if" that is the % to the rear, then its not as great as I initially thought. I guess I'll have to do a bit more research to see how much is actually put to the rear.
     
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    b series

    go b16 with crv manual trans crv rear custom drive shaft
     
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    heeha!but is that possible?i´ve read that the cr-v manual trans perhaps fit to the awd but would it fit to an b16, or b18 and not only to the b20b3 which is in the cr-v?i have the same problem, not with the awd wogavan, but with the awd sedan ( ee5 ).
     
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