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hub centric or lug centric?

Discussion in 'Wheels / Suspension / Tires / Brakes' started by seanjuan, Oct 12, 2004.

  1. seanjuan

    seanjuan Senior Member

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    so I was asking someone about the wheel spacers that I picked up last week that are flat on the wheel side (they are H&R 5mm) and whether the hubs would still stick out far enough to center the wheels with the spacers on and I was told that it wouldn't matter because Hondas are Lug centric

    is this correct?

    will I experience any problems running spacers that cover up the hub?

    I just want to figure some of this stuff out before I just through all this crap on my car and figure it out the hard way

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    i can tell you my experiences with hondas

    they are hub centric, all cars are hub centric actually...

    the lugs are only suspossed to be used to clamp the rim to the hub...

    the studs/lugs aren't designed to support the impacts from the road, they are only used for the clamping power to keep the rim on the hub...

    or at least thats how it was explained to me...

    personal experience: i had rims that had a bigger inner hub, they would bolt on fine, but i had horrible vibration, got the poly hub centric rings from egay and it worked...

    hope this helps.
     
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    I have those H&R 5mm spacers. I also have the extended ARP wheel studs. They both work great. :thumbsup:
     
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    do the hubs still extend past the spacers at all?


    I was always under the same belief that honda's were hub centric, this is a quote from the guy that was saying they were lug centric

     
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    have you ever EVER EVER seen a lug nut that wasn't tapered at the bottom?

    the idea of that is correct, that it gets centered correctly so that all 4 lugs are seated properly...

    but the studs on your car are not meant to handle the force... lugs and studs provide something like 10,000 lbs of clamping force to hold the rim onto the hub...

    i read about it in popular mechanics or car and driver or honda tuner

    one of them had a good article on it...
     
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    I agree with you on that but I just don't know what do do now, cause I don't want to put on spacers that are going to F up my wheels by putting too much force on the studs instead of puting force on the hub, or end up with hella vibrating as I drive down the road cause my wheels are no longer centered
     
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    well, someone else had them and said they worked fine

    so get the same studs as him and you should be fine :)
     
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    im using 5/16in spacers with stock lugs. i still had plenty of lug left to put my gorilla tapered lugnuts onto.
     
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    did you have any hub left for your wheel to center on? that is mainly what I'm worried about. what brand spacer are you using?
     
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    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

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    i dunno. it doesnt say on the spacers.

    i dont use hubcentric rings, either, and ive never had a problem with any shaking whatsoever, but my wheel weights seem to fall off ocassionally and i need to get them rebalanced.
     
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    good to know, maybe I'll hold on to them in case I decide to use them, but the wheels I picked up for winter are integra wheels so they have the right offset for these brakes
     
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