dacheats..it'a just what klyph is talking about..but the ones he's talking about is the one piece..and it won't work on the crx because of the license plate that crx have in the center of their back bumper..so i'll need the single piece..but two of them..that klyph is talking about what i'm looking for..and no i can't find any picture of Leon Casino's car online, well, not his back bumper though..but the last time i saw them was on the superstreet magazine! Thanks for both of your help though..but can anyone else help out too...