Ok im just gonna copy my post from PGMFI Ok so i removed the old Eprom. Its seems as though i lifted a pad/broke a trace, both on the same curcit. Now i bridged the broken pad from the erpom to another eprom where the trace ran too. The car is still running a solid red cell along wiht the chek engine. The car idles up and down between about 1000 and 2000, and runs like ass when i stomp on it. I have done a fairly good job on the solder aside from the lifted pad/trace. Why is it still not working, im only rinning the stock Eprom at the moment. This was my first chipping job though it seems it should work even with the lifted pad. Seeing as how it was replared nicely, i just dont get it. Can any one help. I can take pictures if t helps but theres nothing you would see i think, iness you could examine it. But really aside from the one lifted pad i dont see any other problems.