Discussion in 'Motorcycles' started by jeffie7, Jun 21, 2007.
Thats really how they corner.
If you tried that on street tires and non-track conditions, you'd eat pavement.
i knew they went low but damn son
clean road and good tires, you can roll it to the edge of the tire. =)
Here's some more.
also check out the last lap of this race, this is where rossi bumped the other guy, video has been posted most everywhere but its neat seeing these guys get into on the track.
Moto GP Sachsenring 2006
Rossi has a picture of a naked chick on his helmet ?
How cool is that ?
I wonder if its a play on the yankees/pinstripe theory.
YouTube - Moto Gp Fun Stunts and falls
Its awesome that they crash a bike at 200mph, get up, cussing and screaming, kick the bike, and storm off in a hissy fit.
Riding gear ftw.
p.s. I've been watching a few of these moto gp clips in the last few minutes. That repsol rider crashes more than everyone else. Its seems every third clip is the repsol eating shit..
I also think it's neat that they have pucks on their elbows. That's hardcore lean.
+1 for the track comment too. Doing leans like this requires very sticky tires, and a GREAT road surface. I've leaned down half that much, caught a pebble and felt the bike kick out momentarily.
I also got freaked the hell out last week when making a regular turn at an intersection, and the toe of my boot touched the ground and got yanked up under the peg. Luckily I was wearing the steel toes when that happened, but it still shocked my foot quite badly. It was enough to make a mental note "Keep your toes up when you're cornering like that"
I've never leaned so much to touch pegs, but I have tried that "reaching for the ground" thing that I think Wil commented on in my Ninja thread. I've been riding really conservatively since these points lately, primarily because I don't wear my riding pants to work in the heat, and secondarily because I don't want to get cocky.
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Maybe if you rode a supersport you'd easily see how it's very possible to get down to the point of wearing down your foot pegs. The main problem to doing it is that it takes some real speed on a nice turn to get into the turn that much, in most cases you would have to easily do well over double the speed limit to get there. but as far as doing it, give me a normal road that has been pretty well kept up and I'll lean the bike over to the point of griding the pegs even without that little stopper.
That's why I'm a believer that you should ride on the balls of your feet and not the center.Riding on the ball of your foot will allow you to easily shift your whole body weight from one side of the bike to the next, my ass is almost never planted when I hit backroads.
When you do touch your foot pegs down, your foot simply rides up with it.
Check out the foot placement.
A lot of people who ride bikes on both the track and street use the same tires, 208s come to mind (dunlops) at least on one of the bike boards I hit up, so if on a nice clean road, and using street tires that also see track days... it just goes to show once again that most people who ride on the street can't push their bikes anywhere to the limits and as always the rider is by far the limiting factor. I see it again and again, people who can wheelie, do highway runs, but can't even hang on a backroad when doing a nice "easy" ride. trying to hang with my slow ass =)
Not to say you should be leaning a bike that hard on public streets but to say you need sticky ass tires and a super clean road. that road I agree, even if Im going slow I still want a clean road, as far as the sticky tires, again get on a supersport, there's a reason why if rode hard a supersport rear tire will last about 2000 miles if road easy you might get 4000 miles out of one.
Thanks for the advice, I got two things out of that that I'll start doing:
First off, the foot placement. I'll get into that habit.
But secondly, when you mention raising my ass out of the seat, this might make everything fall in place during a corner.
I'm not sure if my bike's weight is why, or if I'm just not trying - But I corner without shifting my ass at all. I find no need to hang off the bike to get it around corners, no matter how scary fast I take them. I was really surprised that I DID hit my foot on the ground, because I wasn't even trying an extreme lean. I thought that maybe my (lack of) hanging off the bike was just because my little bike has like, no moment of inertia (I don't press up against the inside bar at all, like I do on my friend's SS bikes). So I figured that leaning is for bigger bikes.
Another tip is to try and eat your mirror, if leaning left, get your head out near your left mirror. if turning right, put it to your right mirror. The idea is to keep as much weight over the front wheel as you can, this helps with traction as with keeping the front end down.
anyways you can ride a bike pretty darn fast with out hanging off a bike. One of my somewhat newer rider friends has a 1000RR he doesn't do the ass up/lean type of riding I was talking about. he's pretty fast, and is pretty fast, that is... till he rode with me, I let him lead because hes a newer rider, but last time out when I told him hey let me go up front do not go over your safe zone, just catch up at the end of the road... we went down a short road maybe 2 miles long, at the end I pulled over and sat........... and sat...... haha
Chances are what you think is scary fast is really nothing more then what I'd call a nice fun easy ride. =)
Thats 6+ years of riding on the street VS your few months. in time you'll find that when doing 50-60 down a backroad leaning isn't really needed in fact I tend to keep my left hand on my hip, when doing 80+ then you start to lean, even more so when the sign says 25mph turn up ahead. WOOT! There's nothing like going into a sharp turn really hot, nailing the brakes, riding the turn just right and kicking ass on the way out.
We gotta go riding
So yeah, I did the ball of the foot thing, and raised myself off the seat this morning. My tank bag now gets in the way. But I did a few turns, and sure enough it turns. I need more practice.
That and the ball of the foot / elevation above the seat thing REALLY makes for a tiring ride.
But today was only a commute.
you get used to it
its like sex. when you have it everyday, you dont get as tired, so you do it longer.
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