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What Do I Need : F22a In 93 Hatch

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by FrescoBlue, Mar 22, 2003.

  1. FrescoBlue

    FrescoBlue Junior Member

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    Hi,

    since my prelude S (F22A) is crashed and I know have a 5th gen civic, I'm wondering if the steps for this swap are the same than for the H22.
    There's not much informations about this swap on the Net. Sure I'll need motor mount. What about the rest? Axels , I think but not sure. The link for the clutch?

    Thankx in advance

    Simon
     
  2. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    why? its as hard to put in as an h22, and has the power of a civic motor with i/h/e
     
  3. FrescoBlue

    FrescoBlue Junior Member

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    Well, I already have the motor (my prelude is VGA : Véhicule Gravement Accidenté, in english.... crashed)
    So it wont cost me a lot. And I already have the i/h/e done on my F22a + MSD 6A with Blaster Coil SS and 9mm spark plug wires. So I think it's not a bad idea to swap it in my 93 DX.

    And the f22a have more torque than any civic motor. :D

    So if it's as hard as the H22, I'll need axels and engine mounts right?

    Thankx

    SImon
     
  4. paragus

    paragus Senior Member

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    yes.. u need axles and mounts
     
  5. dohcvtec_accord

    dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout

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    You'll need to do everything that's required to drop an H22 into a Civic, minus the VTEC and knock sensor stuff.
     
  6. FrescoBlue

    FrescoBlue Junior Member

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    paragus Senior Member

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    i havent even read the whole thing.. but i just read the beginning.. and i saw place racing. You dont have to use place racing.. as a matter of fact i suggest you dont use place racing. They suck, go with hasport mounts. They are much better. www.hasport.com Ill post more stuff after i read all of it, im kinda busy right now.
     
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    paragus Senior Member

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    ok.. ive read it.. and i found some flaws :lol:


    crap.. they suck


    well if u didnt use shitty place racing mounts.. you wont NEED place racing axles. If you use hasport mounts you can use a 90+ Accord Intermediate shaft (aka Midshaft.. wtf is a Jackshaft???) w/ 90-93 integra axles. Or u can use the prelude Int. Shaft with some custom dss axles.


    wrong. you can keep these things.


    here he's trying to say that if you dont use the place racing shifter box you have to cut holes in your firewall (one word) to run the cable. This again is wrong.


    if you did it correctly and didnt go throught the firewall, you wont lose the function of the cupholder.


    i just want to elaborate on this.. You dont NEED a slim fan, you can ghetto cut your fan, which i dont recommend, i dont know how much of a budget your on. But if you do get a slim fan.. i recommend a FAL slim fan. he didnt mention brands but you get what you pay for. I've heard some stories of the pep boys thin fan thats like $60 or something like that having a very short lifespan


    dont need this..


    dont need this...


    lol. if i didnt know any better, id swear place racing made this site.. :lol: well i hope i cleared some of that up for you, use what you want, i just wanted to show u the options. i can only talk from pics ive seen w. place racing and everyone telling me not to get them.. I got hasport thats why i recommend hasport, their quality is top notch, and ive met a few h22 hasport guys that dont have the problems associated with place racing or hcp. again. it all boils down to "you get what you pay for"
     
  9. FrescoBlue

    FrescoBlue Junior Member

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    Wow!

    Thank you Paragus!

    A lot more information than I tough I could get.

    It seems that mounts are an important part that I must take care.

    There is this guy that sell cheap mounts. He say it's "Red Shift" Mounts

    Since I'm putting a F22 instead of the H22, maybe cheaper mounts will do the job? (Less power...)

    I think I'll buy HasPort but can you tell me your opinion on these? (If I can save a buck or 2 ;))

    Thank you again Paragus, you're the man.
     
  10. xj0hnx

    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    There is no pictures of the mounts or a link that I could see,but HAsport has R and D behind their products that most others can't afford to replicate.It is more than just a better quality,they do a better job of placing the motor closer to where it should go.
     
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    paragus Senior Member

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    as far as red shift mounts.. ive never heard of them, i think i might have seen them on ebay. Red shift Cheap.. on that link u put i think i saw $400. for a extra $150 you have the insurance (security) of hasport mounts.. And you are buying the mounts to handle the power yes.. but more importantly you are buying the mounts so your motor sits correctly in your engine bay. If your engine doesnt sit correctly in your engine bay, you are going to have greater chances of breaking axles. And again.. u get what you pay for :p my vote is for hasport

    http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/browse.ph...hp?album_id=146
    here is a link to my gallery.. you can see the quality of the hasport mounts.. and there is even a pic of my FAL slim fan. there is a shifter pic and some other h22 stuff that doesnt apply to u :D

    http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/browse.ph...hp?album_id=272
    here is another link to another gallery it has civic wiring diagrams and h22 diagrams.. pin outs, etc, its all labeled.

    if you got any other questions.. just ask. i also have a h22 swap write up that might be helpful for you.. just gimme your email, pm me whatever.
     
  12. FrescoBlue

    FrescoBlue Junior Member

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    Thank you very much.

    If I can do something for you, don't hesitate ;)

    Simon
     
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