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how to be a playa by B 
for real though, if you say it right, and in a jokingly manner, she'll think its funny/cute/whatever, not creepy.
it also saves you from being a fucking and loser and saying 'will you go out with me'. so gay.
set it up, set her to offer/give it to you, and things will go pretty smoothly.
for real though, if you say it right, and in a jokingly manner, she'll think its funny/cute/whatever, not creepy.
it also saves you from being a fucking and loser and saying 'will you go out with me'. so gay.
set it up, set her to offer/give it to you, and things will go pretty smoothly.
Hondadude141
¿pɐǝɥ ɹn ɥʇıʍ uıop nɥɔʇɐʍ
how about some convo starter lines for me thats the only part i really suck at....
90_EF_Hatch
Señor Member
you: "Fat Penguin"
girl: "huh?"
you: "I just wanted to say something that would break the ice"
girl: "huh?"
you: "I just wanted to say something that would break the ice"
Kanned
Beast
I hear ya and appreciate it. lol I have never said "Will you go out with me?". It's usually "May I take you out to dinner?" even though I fucking hate meals being the first date. I always get screwed on that deal lol.how to be a playa by B
for real though, if you say it right, and in a jokingly manner, she'll think its funny/cute/whatever, not creepy.
it also saves you from being a fucking and loser and saying 'will you go out with me'. so gay.
set it up, set her to offer/give it to you, and things will go pretty smoothly.
Just for kind of a side note, I have dated somewhere around 5 girls. I'm not a complete nervous wreck, just have awful anxiety.
The biggest thing is just getting flustered from anxiety and being nervous. Try to think about all the times you could've gotten a date, but were too shy to open your mouth. I just remembered that shitty feeling and finally got fed up with it. If you build up the balls, you could just say "What's up?" like I do lol. If are at a complete loss for words after that, just blurt out something about her being pretty and how you want to take her out. You will simply get the best feeling ever or she'll say no and you'll still feel good that you took the step.
If you want actual liners, the fat penguin is always a good one. ^_^
drbelanger73
Beer is good for you.
Stand by for rant... :ranting2:
Beautiful women are the easiest ones to get, and i will tell you why...
Most guys are so hung up on some esoteric vulnerability, lack of confidence, or lack of knowledge of self, that they are done before they get out of the box (or perhaps I should say into the box...).
Just stop giving a fuck. I mean really. Women are the same god damn beings as men. They feel fear, the get horny, the have self doubt, vulnerability, and lack of direction. Take them down off the pedestal and lo and behold they aren't that much different.
Back to my original point though...
"hot" women are the easiest to get. Most of the guys who walk up to them are the Maxim/GQ punks (the ricers of love?), the societally proscribed males that are so far off the base of self they have no idea how stupid they look.
I suggest a strict regimen of weed...
I mean shit, I'm a 135lbs soaking wet. I've been bald since I was 23. I read comic books, I still play dungeons and dragons. You should have seen some of the women I landed, not to mention I'm married to an Icelandic woman who is none to shabby herself.
Know thyself. Knowledge is booty...
Beautiful women are the easiest ones to get, and i will tell you why...
Most guys are so hung up on some esoteric vulnerability, lack of confidence, or lack of knowledge of self, that they are done before they get out of the box (or perhaps I should say into the box...).
Just stop giving a fuck. I mean really. Women are the same god damn beings as men. They feel fear, the get horny, the have self doubt, vulnerability, and lack of direction. Take them down off the pedestal and lo and behold they aren't that much different.
Back to my original point though...
"hot" women are the easiest to get. Most of the guys who walk up to them are the Maxim/GQ punks (the ricers of love?), the societally proscribed males that are so far off the base of self they have no idea how stupid they look.
I suggest a strict regimen of weed...
I mean shit, I'm a 135lbs soaking wet. I've been bald since I was 23. I read comic books, I still play dungeons and dragons. You should have seen some of the women I landed, not to mention I'm married to an Icelandic woman who is none to shabby herself.
Know thyself. Knowledge is booty...
Celerity
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how to be a playa by B
for real though, if you say it right, and in a jokingly manner, she'll think its funny/cute/whatever, not creepy.
it also saves you from being a fucking and loser and saying 'will you go out with me'. so gay.
set it up, set her to offer/give it to you, and things will go pretty smoothly.
Not bad, but you'll just get a fake phone number.
Here is the Celerity way: and it worked this week. Some polish girl I met at the gas station I spent my afternoon at in the "Rat Rod" thread.
First, get paper and a pen. Write your name on it. Just your name. Then, walk up to them, get a writing surface, and start writing YOUR number down. The timing in all of this is crucial. Practice with a friend. The moment you start writing, avoid eye contact for a split second. Start talking before you look up:
"Hey, You look like a fun sorta girl" (Look up at her) "If you wanna hang out sometime, give me a call" (Don't break eye contact, just slide the card or whatever across to her)
"You should know I have a boyfriend" (Or whatever lame ass line they give.. it's not important)
Pause for slightly less than a second "Ok. Offer still stands. If you're bored, call me"
She called me. We were going to get together, but once again - the second call never came ("Nice talking to you... call me Thursday at 6 or so and I'll be by to pick you up". Never called.)
You see, the important thing here is it removes a lot of problems from the situation. Number one problem: "Does she (really) have a boyfriend". This answers it by removing it - You don't CARE if she has one or not. Test or not, lie or not. Don't care. My friend goes on to include:
"Yeah, ok. Whatever, when he bores you call me." or "Yeah ? Well when he bores you, and he will, call me" or "Ok. Next time you see him, tell him you have my number" Neither of those work for ME, but he's a big, sly asshole type that gets women by being an asshole. Doesn't work for everyone.
The stumbling thing is a horrible trait that women have. She MAY be using the boyfriend thing just like you did with the garage girl. She may be walking away going "STUPID STUPID STUPID" and get in her car and start cutting herself. Or, she may have a boyfriend. Unfortunately, the soft human brain can't handle a situation like this - even though without these wierd meetings (or muslim rape) the human race wouldn't procreate. And you can imagine that even with the gelatinous brains that people have, they still manage to hook up all the time.
So by deflecting the boyfriend, you're not just being a cool and relaxed asshole, you're padding yourself against a blow, OR you're giving someone the chance to make good on the offer when their grey matter stops sizzling.
Celerity
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I actually sort of agree with a lot of this. But, in that rant you managed to fuimble with a few concepts.
I too have dated some really good looking women (And one fat fat fatty, but I loved her) and I'm twisted and deformed. But, on the other hand, I'm also a good looking dude.
Pardon me, I've been running a PR campaign on behalf of Mischa Barton's ass since Tuesday. I'm spent.
Here is the thing about being attactive: really hot women have it bad. Feel sorry for them. They have no talents, no skills, no reasoning and no "hard knocks" type of education. They don't need to work towards getting a floppy dick in their face, but they do need to work at - and possibly never get - the slightest amount of genuine... Anything. Respect, answers, conversation - nothing. The world is a miserable, run-on sentence of lies and misery - punctuated by the occasional poorly derived orgasm.
And Denis Leary said it best: "Life is 3 things. orgasms, cigarettes and cookies. You get up, go to work, come home, jerk off, eat a fuckin cookie, smoke the cigarette fall asleep and wake up the next day and do the same fuckin thing again"
Use that
That's the part I'm bad at. I can do it, but not as well as I converse and close.
Celerity
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Starting lines are a touchy and tough thing. I have my own habits, but that's because I suck at the follow through. So I tend to start conversations I can finish.
"Nice day. Why don't you have a motorcycle?"
"(work) treating you well? I used to do this, it (sucked / rocked)"
That's about all that comes to mind. If it's subject matter oriented (Picking up girls in the Reference section of a book store) then it's a bit easier. Out of the blue, not much comes to mind. I've just learned to never *really* comment on someone's looks. That comes off as "I just got outta jail and I'm sweatin' you fer a date" (Thanks, Positive K). So instead I let my eyes do the beauty talking. I do flat out look someone up and down a few times. I pause as if something has stunned me, and then I move on.
Timing is KEY. When you have something to say, either pause slightly, or breeze over something else slightly. The timing to what you say means more than what you say . Again, 40yov technique that always works: act like David Caruso from Jade. Just repeat everything they say, have a slight pause, jut your chin out a bit and look down on them. I find that the Calumbo / Jeff Goldblum mixes worked well for me, because of my size and general appearance.
"Nice day. Why don't you have a motorcycle?"
"(work) treating you well? I used to do this, it (sucked / rocked)"
That's about all that comes to mind. If it's subject matter oriented (Picking up girls in the Reference section of a book store) then it's a bit easier. Out of the blue, not much comes to mind. I've just learned to never *really* comment on someone's looks. That comes off as "I just got outta jail and I'm sweatin' you fer a date" (Thanks, Positive K). So instead I let my eyes do the beauty talking. I do flat out look someone up and down a few times. I pause as if something has stunned me, and then I move on.
Timing is KEY. When you have something to say, either pause slightly, or breeze over something else slightly. The timing to what you say means more than what you say . Again, 40yov technique that always works: act like David Caruso from Jade. Just repeat everything they say, have a slight pause, jut your chin out a bit and look down on them. I find that the Calumbo / Jeff Goldblum mixes worked well for me, because of my size and general appearance.
Nice Kanned. Can I suggest something though?
Be persistent. Even if she says "...my boyfriend...". A lot of times the ladies love to lie about that to keep the guys away. Maybe just ask for a number, if she refuses. Oh well you asked, right? No harm in at least trying to get that far.
Celerity
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Sometimes I wonder the wisdom of keeping a "dirty phone" around for me to give out numbers. I give out the "Celerity line" to a bunch of people who have NO right to have the kind of mindblowing, earth shattering powers that come with having my cell number.
I'm going to start using grandcentral.com for my cell service.
I'm going to start using grandcentral.com for my cell service.
Celerity
Well-Known Member
Sorry, found a horrible error in this.
"Ok, offer still stands. If you wanna have some fun, call me"
Not "if you're bored, call me" that was lame as fuck.. Come to think of it, that's what I said to that polish girl. Yeah, that was stupid.
This exact thing actually worked for my best friend... He walked up to a girl at the mall and said:
"Cactus."
"What?"
"Cactus!"
"What does that mean?"
"Oh nothing, I just couldn't think of anything to say to you to start a conversation and that's all I had. I'm Carl."
Hondadude141
¿pɐǝɥ ɹn ɥʇıʍ uıop nɥɔʇɐʍ
LMFAO!!!!! im totally going to use that the first chance i get
Kanned
Beast
Ok, so I realized I left this thread hanging today and am here to revive it considering I'm still in the same cluster-fuck when it comes to dating.
Ok, so here's my latest news. I met this girl for the fourth or so time at a party last night. Let's just say she is as of today the most beautiful member of the opposite sex(inside and out) I have had the honors of talking to. I talked to her all night while drinking and had absolutely nothing but amazing conversations about everything.
So as we are both walking out to our cars with a group of people, I realized she had to park in a parking lot a little ways down the road, so I offered her a ride over there. We ended up talking for hours until the sun came up. When we were finally going to part ways, I looked her straight in the eye and asked if I could take her out to dinner sometime. I got a pause and I said "Even if as friends for the time being." to which she replied "Friends." before I could even finish the sentence.
This blows my mind, it has to be something about my physical appearance. Maybe it's because she takes dancing seriously and loves to do it, and I can't dance for shit and never took interest into it. It's shit like that that has been bugging me since that morning. I did get her number, and I don't want to give up on her but she is really good friends with two of my really good friends. I will call her later tonight(that waiting a few days thing is just crap) and see how that goes, but this sucks. She loves guitar, so I could write a quick and funny song to try and woo her a bit. All in all, it is 1000x less frustrating to get a crappy answer rather than not asking at all.
Should I just accept the friendship due to the circumstances? Steve, is there a hack to the ladder system? I think I'm fucked.
I see entirely where you're coming from and it must be nice to have that sort of confidence at all times, but I need to be let in by a girl before I can gain it. I need to get passed the greetings and into a conversation. I guess that kind of sucks for me, but it's the way I am for now.
You know, I have a problem here. I'm not a forceful person by any means, so when I get a "no thank you" in any way, shape, or form I accept. I think in the back of my head that I don't want to date a girl whom I have to convince from the start, but I guess that's the way it goes. Thanks man, I'm gonna start working on my backstroke.
Duly noted. If there's anything I've learned, it's that I'd much rather get a no than go home wondering if I could have gotten a number at the least.
Ok, so here's my latest news. I met this girl for the fourth or so time at a party last night. Let's just say she is as of today the most beautiful member of the opposite sex(inside and out) I have had the honors of talking to. I talked to her all night while drinking and had absolutely nothing but amazing conversations about everything.
So as we are both walking out to our cars with a group of people, I realized she had to park in a parking lot a little ways down the road, so I offered her a ride over there. We ended up talking for hours until the sun came up. When we were finally going to part ways, I looked her straight in the eye and asked if I could take her out to dinner sometime. I got a pause and I said "Even if as friends for the time being." to which she replied "Friends." before I could even finish the sentence.
This blows my mind, it has to be something about my physical appearance. Maybe it's because she takes dancing seriously and loves to do it, and I can't dance for shit and never took interest into it. It's shit like that that has been bugging me since that morning. I did get her number, and I don't want to give up on her but she is really good friends with two of my really good friends. I will call her later tonight(that waiting a few days thing is just crap) and see how that goes, but this sucks. She loves guitar, so I could write a quick and funny song to try and woo her a bit. All in all, it is 1000x less frustrating to get a crappy answer rather than not asking at all.
Should I just accept the friendship due to the circumstances? Steve, is there a hack to the ladder system? I think I'm fucked.
