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'89 Integra swap help

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by 89integra, Dec 31, 2002.

  1. 89integra

    89integra Junior Member

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    I am getting an 89 Integra as a daily driver, and would like to eventually do an engine swap. I've been looking up engines and prices, and so far I m pretty set on the B16A. However I doubt I will do too many more modification after that unless it just doesnt have enough power. I've test driven a few cars, and I really like the way a larger engine feels. Low torque has always kept me from ever wanting a civic. I am wondering if it is cheaper to put a newer integra engine (B18A) and if so would it be worth it if I were to do either more or no modifications after the swap. My primary use will be as a daily driver, and eventually I would like it to be my project car. Any ideas comments or info would be great.

    Thanks, Adam
     
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    Domeskilla Senior Member

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    B16 is a torqueless bitch. Get a 90-93 ls engine and boost it. The motor is obd 0 and cheap (about 900-1200 complete swap).

    The reason a civic is torqueles is b/c they have d-series in them and tegs have b17/18's in them. Get a civic (lighter car), get a b18 and swap it, then later boost it if you want and have a light car, torquey motor. You will be pleased.
     
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    djextremity Senior Member

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    Step one year forward and get a 90. It may be more expensive, but well worth it to start with a B-series in your chassis (also I think the 1g integra looks like ass).
     
  4. SleEPeR_CRX

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    Guys, it doesnt ask in his post if he should sell his car and get an integra or civic. He has the 89 Teg, so instead of telling him to get a different car which might not be feasable, give him what he wants to know. the best possible swap for his car. Now down to the point. Never go b16a in a teg. they are gutless and unless u want to get groceries all ur life, they arent the way to go. I dont know if b18a's will mount or wire into 89's but its worth the research they have a bulletproof bottem end and flow alot better than ur 1.6L(i believe thats what 89's and prior had).Thats pretty much the only engine id go for. B/c after that, if u go GSR or H22a, u are getting into to much money for the car. If u need that extra power, learn how to do an LS/Vtec and then get power. But until then the b18a will b a damn good engine.
     
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    Thanks for some of the info. I am already leaning towards finding a B18A with low milage. Does anyone know what sites have som good starting point prices. And going to a civic is a waste at this point, the first gen intergras are just as light.(2400lbs) : P. Thanks though.


    Adam
     
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    Now wait just a second guys. Why is the B16 so acceptable in a Civic but not in a 1g Integra? (BTW, he said he is GETTING an 89 integra, not he HAS an 89 Integra, so I am trying to save him a little trouble here.)

    Lets compare vehicle weights:
    1989 Acura Integra RS Coupe: 2313 lbs
    1991 Civic Si: 2291 lbs!!

    So why does a 22 lb weight differential make the B16 not a viable option here? We are not talking about Integras that come stock with B-series engines here--we are talking about old light Integras.

    Rather than putting a whole B18 in there, you might as well drop in a set of ZC cams and a ZC IM and have yourself a makeshift ZC for like $400. The B18 makes all of its power down low and doesn't like to rev much--I'd take that D-series higher into the red than a B18A any day. For the cost of your B-series swap (probably 1200-1500), you could PnP your head, run ZC cams and buy bolt-ons and have a quick little car. My ZC ran 14.7 @ 93 stock in a gutted 90 Si. With a PnP job, cams, and bolt-ons, I would bet that you could run the same (if not lower) in that Integra.

    I dunno why I typed all that...I'd still go B16.
     
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    Jeef NO MA'AM Moderator VIP

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    Look at an older issue from 2002 of scc they ddi the b16 swap into a teg. You can get the mounts from hasport.
     
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    The reason I am thinking about a swap, is because the engine already has 180,000 miles on it. I don't own it yet, but it is what I am buying. Now I know that a B16A is still fast, but I am really looking to get a fair amount of torque. The best idea I've come up with so far, is getting a supercharger later after I have the money. In which case I wont be needing the extra displacement the B18 has to offer. Now all I need to do is find a cheap place to find a good engine, hoping for a B16A. Thanks guys


    Adam
     
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    Hey, well if u are gonig the route of B18a, dont buy one over the internet. they will charge u more. and unless u live near the place u gotta pay shipping and mess around if they break a part or leave 1 out.They are also just as high milage as anything at a wrecker. I suggest going to a wrecker, looking around for a good low milage engine and buying it from there, so u know what ur getting, and that ull get it for a reasonable price.
     
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    I got the car, and love it. The car has more miles than I had originally thought. It now has 205,000 miles. Though it still runs great and doesn't seem to have lost much power. It seems to keep up with most new 5 speed civics. My prior concern with torque has been obliterated with the preformance of the stock engine. I am now even sonsidering just getting a rebuilt D16 and getting some forced inducition on it. Money is tight right now, so I am hoping it runs for awhile. Now I have to consider how much I want to spend. I definatly want to keep this cars handling after driving 55 on a 25mph speed limit offramp. :) Thank for the help guys
     
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    xj0hnx I wanna be sedated VIP

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    What are you already trying to wreck it?
     
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    do the b18a you won't be disappointed in daily driving because of the torque. I like b16's but you have to rev the piss out of them to get highend horsepower(without a nice set of cams and compression but at least the R/S ratio is good) or boost it to make up for any low end torque that the b18 already offers. The b18a/b's are good motors that have strong rods but i wouldn't call them bulletproof due to the fact that the R/S ratio is very poor to rev over 7600 RPM's. People swear to LS/VTEC's but the R/S ratio to rev daily to 8k RPM puts a lot of stress on the bottom end leading to eventual failure. You didn't tell us your budget so i can't suggest anything over the b18a(800-1000bucks complete swap) or the b16a(1200 bucks).
     
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    Yeah im new in the tuner buisness and i have a 89 teg also but i dont know what all it has on it i bought it crashed from the from and its been moded but i dont know what engine it is or anything what should i look for
     
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    BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Moderator VIP

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    Good God dude...this thread is six fucking years old...check the date next time...
     
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