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Eureka ! The mystery, closer to being solved

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  1. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    I spent this weekend in front of a white board calculating reality, which is something that I do frequently. I have postulated a few formulas that I'm no good at posting in a thread, so I'll go over it verbally.


    A retiree goes into a Casino, and chooses a slot machine as they often do: the 3rd from the right, 4th row back.

    why ?

    They have their "Lucky machines". It's the machine that once paid out and they won what they wanted. From that point on, they are attached to it - even though we all KNOW there is no such as a lucky slot machine anywhere in a Casino. you or I may approach a slot machine section and just sit down, flip the handle a few times, and walk away knowing that our quarters are better spent elsewhere: like the midget peep show downtown.

    But this slot machine metaphor is reality for all of us when we are choosing a mate. We usually go by what gave us our first, or most frequent, payouts. brunette, dumb, likes techno, etc... And we walk by most other slot machines completely blind to what they offer, or could potentially offer.

    Lots of people like to stay with Asians because that slot machine once or twice gave out the desired pay-out. Others will flip around between a limited few machines, or will immediately sit at a machine that just paid out for a friend. And more often than not, we will pump quarters into this machines as they turn up lemons, until about $45 into it it finally pays out, and we turn to our friends and say "See ? What did I tell you?"

    And this parallels our lives very closely. Put that on the back burner to simmer for a few minutes.

    nice guys always lose. Asshole guys get the girls. This is counterintuitive to what we think is reasonable. All women will say that they don't like assholes, but men are convinced they do. But when it comes down to it: What proof do we have that assholes get the girls ?

    Television / Movies (Fiction) and witnessing asshole guys with women.(What will be detailed in the next few paragraphs)

    This weekend I got a call from a friend. he mentioned that the 20 year old slut was coming around, and wanted to get drunk. So I got a chance to carry out an experiment:

    "Get Rum"
    "Rum? steve, are you fucking serious?"
    "Yes. Rum"
    "Rum makes you a royal asshole. Are you sure you want rum?"
    "Rum."
    "Rum it is. see you at 8"

    I went out, grabbed a 2 pack of rubbers and hit the party. At the party I was asshole SUPREME. And my technique was sort of working. I was excited, so I upped the ante: Had more Rum.

    Something evil happens to me when my liver switches from "Coffee" to "Maximum Strength Rum". I don't get fisty, but I do get snarky as hell. Most everytime I enjoy Rum I get in a bar fight, and my sinuses ache. I went aboard this girl. Made her cry.



    I've mentioned that I only know about 4 people that have any business working with statistics. I am not one of those people. But in my calculation, I plugged in my formula for "people" and came up with a stark relation: The fact that 90% of people on the planet are assholes, then our x factor here is that the results we see will be 90% offset by the fact that everyone is an asshole.

    And there you have it. Just the mere fact that people are assholes, people get women, ergo women must like assholes is FALSE. It's poor handling of statistics.

    My method didn't work. I was winning at first because the first wave of Rum caused me to loosen up and treat her like a friend. I busted her balls to an almost illegal degree. And that was ok. When I made her cry and pointed out how she'll end up bleeding from the pussy in a ditch by the age of 22, I went over the line. If a little of something is good, then a lot of something is totally awesome. This behavior didn't fit that mold.

    And if you know me in person, I'm about 10% asshole, and combined with my policy of complete honesty, when I tell you things you don't want to hear I become a robot asshole, enough to make violence just occur.

    So here is the "Eureka!" moment.


    There is NO DIFFERENCE, mathematically, between going to a singles meet and taking a walk around the block. There is NO DIFFERENCE at all between socializing and playing it cool, putting on an act, or doing super-cool things, or just playing with rattan weapons in the park dressed as your favorite Dungeons and Dragons characters with a few friends.

    That bears repeating: There is NO DIFFERENCE.

    Finding love, even a handjob, is purely a random act. It's a matter of chance, like the slot machines. It's a complete gamble. There is nothing - not a goddam motherfucking thing you can do to increase your odds. Just because that behavior, like a slot machine, gave you payout once or twice, doesn't mean that it will always give you payout.

    So there you have it. The only thing you can do to change your odds is not to play: Staying at home all night waiting for the doorbell to ring, and having someone offer you a job / girlfriend / blowjob is obviously fruitless, unless you're on totalburnout's dorm floor. You DO have to get out of your house to play.

    but beyond that, there is NO single anything that works. It's all a lie. Your chances of finding the right person is purely a gamble, a random and wierd act. The only thing you can do is make yourself available for it to happen to you (You'll never get hit by lightning if you stay in a bunker all your life)
     
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  2. Dustin_m

    Dustin_m Active Member

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    very true, you will never get/accomplish anything if you don't get out and do something.
     
  3. INJEN78

    INJEN78 HS LEGEND

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    wow,,,your thoughts are very convincing,,i actually sat here and thought about EVERYTHING you typed,and its all true,,
    so im just going to go out,and not look for anything,but im going to spark convo with nearly all the ladies i see,if none are takers,oh-well i tried,if some take it,then hell yea...
    rep for you
     
  4. TurboMirage

    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

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    injen dont forget the rum ;)
     
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    INJEN78 HS LEGEND

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    nah im good with that
     
  6. 90_EF_Hatch

    90_EF_Hatch Señor Member

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  7. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    I love how you assert totalburnout has a dorm room.



    And I agree. You have to make yourself available. Sitting at home isn't going to increase your odds in anything happening. Being in many places, at many times, will.
     
  8. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    Most of my posts have a single line that you have to read several times before you get what I'm really saying. The dorm line was that. Read it a few more times.
     
  9. invisibledemon

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    now, the idea that some is good, more is awesome, is wrong, take a small bit of hotsauce and put it on your tongue, its ok, decent taste, little burn, but pretty good.
    now suck down the whole bottle. not so friendly anymore.

    you butchered that poor girl, thats not being an asshole, thats being a complete douchebag that people learn to resent.

    theres a difference between being an asshole and being the total dick that people just cant stand to be around.

    people stick with the same machines bc you are right, they feel it to be lucky.
    but its also bc they like the familiarity of the machine.
    they know that it doesnt fuck up, they are familiar with the view of thats ahead or beside.

    they also know that if they keep dumping money into it it will eventually hit again.

    now, the chances of a machine hitting two times close to one another is pretty low, but they dont want to leave those machines bc they think that if they leave to go to another machine then the machine that they were just on may be about to hit again.
    therefor they stay out of a bit of fear.

    theres many reasons as to why people go to the same machines: habit, familiarity, fear.



    now, your experiment with the rum, you went to far.
    that girl may be all for the asshole but nobody likes being put down so far and hard that they feel like shit.
    the asshole that girls go for is usually a nice guy too.
    that asshole is the guy that knows how to be nice to keep the girl in the "aw" mode. while at the same time being an asshole, which in a way shows that he can be aggressive, which relates to manliness.
    girls want a nice guy, but they dont want a whinny little pussy whos going to cry more than them.



    Your experiment was flawed.
    you took one variable and pushed it out too high. and distorted the results.
     
  10. dacheat

    dacheat ..is grounded.

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    the profound ring of truth.
     
  11. Jeef

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    I do agree with this. Most guys who are assholes do not make girls they want cry, well atleast until they know each other better. You probably went way too far with it. Also, from what I have seen with guys who are asshole to their girls they don't constantly do it, they also do have the nice guy side.

    Steve you do make some good points. You definetly need to be somewhat active to make your odds better. Its just like the guys who get more girls, most of them get rejected a lot but move on and keep trying. You can also relate it to the stock market, if you keep your money in one stock you have a slim chance of making money overtime. But if you diversify into many different stock you have a much better chance of making money. You got to spread out and try for many girls.
     
  12. E_SolSi

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    welcome to the law of large numbers
     
  13. Celerity

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    Being a "bit" of an asshole doesn't get women.

    Being cool doesn't even get women, unless it's what women are looking for - and then you're just putting on an act to play that slot machine.

    the Slot Machine, in your understanding of payout and luck are completely magical. what I'm saying is that there is a direct parallel between the slot machines and "all the different types of opposite sex out there". The parallel is that it's all a chance. There is NO SUCH THING as a lucky slot machine. Our purpensity to hang on one specific machine is insane and flat-out ignorant of the rules of reality. If there were lucky slot machines, then casinos would no longer offer slot machines. Casinos instead offer slot machines because people tend to hang on a machine in the efforts of getting their "lucky payout" again, which actually DECREASES the odds of winning - Thus Casinos LOVE slot machines. The goal here is to NOT make the house win.

    Our habits of staying with what we "know" and what our friends "tell us" is utter horseshit.

    As far as being an asshole, I fear I may have drawn the wrong comparison. Look at me in my Hondaswap persona (non grata?). Some people here fucking hate me, others love me. Lots of people would describe me as an asshole. This is my true nature, EXCEPT when I'm around a woman that I'm interested in. My knees turn to jelly, I say stupid shit, and am all nervous (which is why I won't put one on the back of the bike). That's ME. Any effort to behave differently IS pretending and putting on an act.

    That Act works on people who are looking for That Act, but when it subsides I wind up defaulting to my usual "nice guy" routine (As some of the people here have found out.. I'm actually a nice guy) and moreso "Honest Guy" routine (Which no one wants to see... who the hell wants to be around someone who knows the score ?). My nature is intense, and requires the ear and eyes of someone who knows my intent is innocent.

    That dramatically reduces my chances of finding "a" woman, and dramatically increases my odds of finding "the" woman.

    Playing cool around women is like a woman who gets all gussied up to go out, tight fitting clothes and pretty smells and lots of doo-dads and gee-gaws dangling from their face, even the 8" diameter sunglasses - Which as a side note, look like GTS headlight covers from a Neon - They do it specifically to attract a mate, as men do with the cool thing - It's so appres-peux it hurts. As is the aloof "I'll talk to you while it seems to be convenient, then you can kiss my ass" act that men think is good to put on.

    You don't need to do it !

    It's done, again, because it's what is told works. But the truth is that ... this bears repeating over and over again until it sinks in, There is no difference between this behavior and just being who you are, looking like you want, and behaving as you do because it's all just chance.
     
  14. get_nick

    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    so heres my thought on the random slot machine.

    i have been around all the slots, lets see here....

    white,
    jamaican,
    1/2 white, 1/2 korean,
    1/2 irish, 1/2 spanish,
    black americans,
    filipino/french,
    turkish,
    egyptian,
    russian,
    canoodian,
    now finally chinese,

    i have found that there have been "good" results from any, so i'm never going to stick to just one. we'll play the slots and see what happens.

    i have been pegged by both a friend and an ex for saying the following "stat".
    "If you ask 10 girls in a bar straight up, "do you want to fuck?" at least 1 will say yes".

    not a good one to be called out on, i don't remember it, but it's probably true. haha.

    there is no consistant to randmom stats. you want to change the game, you have to change yourself. you are the only thing involved here.

    if you want to be a "player, pimp, gamer, or hustler", those are the types of girls you are going to get. thats what i had to learn.

    i was finally the genuine "me", and found someone amazing. i don't have to pull any punches and finally get to be myself for once. you can get laid any day of the week. but thats what you get. a one night honey.

    steve, you need to spend some serious time trying to figure out what you want. you are in a tough spot right now because it's new. do you want a new love or do you want to get your noodle wet with as much random as possible?

    figure this out before you start getting all strung out about striking out.
     
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    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    What I want doesn't exist. The female version of myself.

    What is out there is so diverse that I, nor anyone can render any limitations. "There simply aren't any decent people out there" is both self fulfilling prophecy as well as inherently wrong.

    Getting my noodle wet is a sideeffect, not a goal. I learned that with a permanent girlfriend before I got more sex than any single pay-as-you-go guy did or could. I'm more interested in keeping someone around, and the side effect is a good sex life. So I'm honestly looking for a real girlfriend with a compatible personality that I can keep around for as long as possible.

    Or, that may just be me pulling at the same slot machine because it worked once or twice.

    Knowing that, I want the lesser of the two - My chances of happiness with either "wants" is the SAME.
     
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    you have to learn how to settle or overlook some things. Hard pill to swallow, I know I'm in the same boat. Look at it mathmatically 5 billion people in the world, roughly 2.5 billion women, and 750million in the dating age range. Assuming those numbers are correct (for arguements sake) there is a 1 in 750mil chance that "the one" is out there. now out of those numbers, what is the possibility that that 1 in 750mil chance lives somewhere in the world remotely close to you, much less the odds of crossing paths.
     
  17. invisibledemon

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    then play a different slot machine.

    you are the old guy thats been sitting at the same machine the whole time, the one that gets the small payouts but just cant seem to hit the jackpot.
    if you arent getting the results that you wish to have, then that means that in your equation the constant variable is going to be you, honost, and nice.

    Side note: im a very honost person, i wont lie to anybody just to spare their feelings or for any other reason. the beauty of honesty is that it is mistaken for being an asshole. bc you wont sugarcoat something, or hide something bc you know it will be hard on them, people will think you are an asshole.

    whereas the last time the constant was that girls like assholes, and you changed the variable of yourself
    so that means that you are going to have to change around the other variables to successfully complete your equation.
     
  18. get_nick

    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    i think you look at this in the backwards point of view.

    there are 750,000,000:1 odds there is NOT someone out there for you.

    be optimistic, be patient, and let it come to you.
     
  19. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    be YOU
    do the stuff YOU like to do
    go the places YOU like to go

    when you meet someone while in the process of being YOU, you have a better chance that you will have something in common with them

    if you hate pets, you are not going to find someone you are happy with at the dog park.
    if you like acting out D&D battles in the park, you probably wont find your elf princess at the trendy night club
     
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    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    werd, werd, werd....

    exactly what i've been saying.
     
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