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Discussion in 'Forced Induction' started by TrailerParkPimpsDad, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. TrailerParkPimpsDad

    TrailerParkPimpsDad Happy?

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    Good deal or no? I'm seriously considering this. All I'd need to do is get a fuel pump and make sure the injectors work.

    I've got about 100 that I can throw at it for sure right now, and if I can sell my header, that's about another 270.

    I could throw another 100 a month at it and hold off on payments for my bed.
     
  2. pissedoffsol

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    turbo and intercooler don't tell us much...

    more details?
     
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    Indeed.

    You also don't know what style header it has, what size downpipe or fmic piping, what brand intercooler or if its a SSautochrome kit.

    It could very well be a ssautochrome kit and you might be able to get it for cheaper, brand new - unless you know something thats not posted up there. SSAC was having problems with intake and exhaust manifolds though - their intercoolers are good.
     
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    It's a greddy kit for the b16a2, it came off a 2000 Si... I forgot to mention that from his previous post. This is a local guy, btw.
     
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    Look at it. Turbos with any shaft play are sub-$100 in my book.
     
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    Turbos are supposed to have minimal shaft play. If they don't they're no good anymore.
     
  7. phunky.buddha

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    :werd:

    The deal on the kit is decent, but I would skip the AEM EMS and go with Hondata or one of the free solutions.
     
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    true dat. When BDN buys me my new P28, and chips it I have the programming software. But expect tons of questions from me about it. lol
     
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    *moving to FI*


    I think you can do better for around the same price... with NEW parts.

    50 - dsm injectors (used)
    90 - walbro 255
    75 - oil feed/return lines
    650 shipped - ccfab b-series log mani/ ic piping/ downpipe kit w/ BOV flange of choice
    50-75 DSM BOV (used)
    150 - simple intercooler (eBay Motors: 28 X 6 X 3 TURBO INTERCOOLER BAR & PLATE ONLY 149.99 (item 320018688684 end time Aug-25-06 08:28:31 PDT))
    75 - tial 38mm wg
    (eBay Motors: Tial external wastegate 38 mm silver plus extra (item 140021918311 end time Aug-25-06 16:55:29 PDT))

    That's about 1000 bucks.

    just add your turbo of choice. you can go cheap with an SSauto turbo (their turbos aren't that bad.... its their manis that suck) or find one used some where for a couple hundred.

    and i guarantee you'll make more power.

    the 18g kinda sucks... and you'll have trouble finding replacements for it compared to a t3 flanged mani and t3 turbo setup. it's way more universal.

    And if you switch to used parts instead of new, you might be able to come close to the 1000 mark you've set yourself.

    out of the box, the greddy kit adds 40-60 whp to a b16.... most dyno around 180-200 at the wheels. it's really a far cry from being impressive.
     
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    hit me up, im sure we can make something happen
     
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    Yeah, that after YOU have shown pictures of turbo's that literally cracked and split in half? :huh:

    If I piece things together it'll never get done.
     
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    Yeah. Avoid the SSAC turbos like the plague.
     
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    ive seen many ssac turbos last a long ass time and make fgood power. you guys are just lame sometimes, take some advice from people with real world experience.

    i do this shit all day every day. ive had my hands on about 20 of these turbos. there are 3 major knockoff turbo manufacturers.

    stone mountain racing has the turbo with "turbo zy" on the compressor housing and a black serial tag.
    these are the ones that blow apart in 10 miles,

    there are also another variation of the ssac turbo flaoting around sold by most other ebayt chinese sellers EXCEPT ssac. they are a hit or miss deal,.

    the actual SSAC knockoff 57 trim has a perfect track record as far as ive used. and i know of at least 5 right now on customer cars, running for well in excess of 1 year, daily driven.

    fuck it, for the price, id run one,

    the only reason your car will never work with a pieced together kit, is this, you are tits on a bull mechanically, and your a cheap ass. with alittle research, common sense and about 1500-2k
    you can really have something very solid. a greddy 18g kit is nothing but a limp dick. its fuckin terrible and a huge waste of money.
     
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    :shrug:

    SSAC kits do sell with the "Turbo ZY" turbos on eBay though.

    I don't really care though- I won't be buying any of those 3 knockoffs anyway.
     
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    hahahaha shit. That's hilarious. It's going to take me some time to get this 1000 put together. I need to sell some parts.

    I'm cheap? You're fucking straight! lol I was offered this used turbo kit.

    I simply don't have the time or patience to go junkyard hunting or ebay surfing for a used turbo. Fact is, I hate Ebay. Prices may be great but shipping is always too fucking expensive. Don't you know that's how these guys make their money?

    I've been researching turbocharging, supercharging, and nitrous applications for... how long have I had my car now? 3 years? Oh, yeah... lets not forget the 2 years of research I put into turboing my old Escort... but I guess I don't have much real world experience. All I have is honda-tech.com where I've seen, hell I don't even know how many SSA turbos and manifolds just randomly cracking/breaking and falling apart.

    I'm glad that you like them and will use them, but I will NOT spend a dime on an SSA anything. Period.

    Your opinion may be the 18g is a limp dick, but this is my daily driver and i'm not looking to snap axles with massive horsepower everytime I get on it. I want 200 whp for a decent price. That's really all I care about on a stock engine with 78k miles on it.

    So if you're not going to help me out here, but instead just call me cheap and stupid then take your posts elsewhere. Because I could care less about what YOU would do.
     
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    ive been at this 2 times longer than you, its my job. im giving you factual information based on real world experiences. not 3rd hand shit you read on the web.

    you wanna be cheap, your shit wont last. or make even 200whp. i told you id hook you up on the mani dp/ chargepipes . for 200whp grab a used garrett and a log mani and a 2.5 inch dp.

    personally id rather use a new ssa turbo for 189 than a used garrett of unknown condition for about the same. liek i siad, first hand experience doesnt lie. people who fuck things up on h-t or lots of places on the web are quick to blame the prduct, but in reality it is them, who was to blame because they didnt install it right, or did something fucking dumb and broke it. ive installed PLENTY of them PROPERLY and watched with kmy own 2 eyes, each one work perfectly.
     
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