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Mad wheelies.. Prevented

Discussion in 'Motorcycles' started by Celerity, Jun 7, 2007.

  1. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    Can anyone explain this ?

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    I mean, it's hard keeping the front end of my 250 down.
     
  2. phyregod

    phyregod !!YTINASNI

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    Longer arm = Weight re-distribution. Simple physics.

    The longer the arm, the harder it is to get the front wheel off the ground.
     
  3. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    He's being sarcastic cuz I bet it is pretty hard to get the front end up on those bikes.



    It's kind of easy on mine, just roll through first gear pinned, and the front end comes flying up at about 11k. Not r1 up, but it pops up pretty easy.


    Rode my neighbors tl1000r yesterday. Now that thing is a beast. SSooooo much torque.
     
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    yes it's a little red "X" in a box
     
  5. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    I have yet to pull a wheelie on the bike, but I feel it's pretty damned impossible.
     
  6. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

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    It's possible. Its just hard. You have to be sitting in gear not floored, but near your power band, roll through your power band, progressively giving it more and more gas, while pulling with your weight, yes, pulling with your weight and the bitch will come free, its just odd feeling at first.

    I don't do wheelies, or exercise them, but I have a quad that I do wheelies on all the time, and friends dirtbikes.




    If I can get my buddies 50 cc pit bike to do a wheelie, you can wheelie yours.
     
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    TurboMirage YEEAAAHHH VIP

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    we used to put an extended swing arm on the race quad to help keep more power to the ground.

    it was also very helpful in rhythm sections and landing long jumps.

    easy to swap out if you have two rear ends. we had a remote rear brake reservoir for each rear end so when we were at the track we wouldnt have to re-bleed the brakes, and the actuator was controlled by removable linkage.

    pop the chain, the brake linkage, and the one bolt holding the arm to the frame. easy :)

    no fun to run the long swing arm in the woods :(
     
  8. Celerity

    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    I can pull wheelies on a 50cc too. Short wheelbase and little tires make it easy.
     
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    Hill climber?
     
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    micah Senior Member

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    maybe it has engine work
    maybe someones trying to have the fastest 250 on record
    maybe someone just likes the look
    who knows
     
  11. get_nick

    get_nick These snozzberries taste like snozzberries... VIP

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    looks like it's lowered for a short rider.
     
  12. pissedoffsol

    pissedoffsol RETIRED

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    extended swing arm = drag bike
     
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  14. phyregod

    phyregod !!YTINASNI

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    ^^^32cc MONSTER zomg hill climber?!?!?!?

    pah pah pah pah pthbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbttttttttt!
     
  15. jeffie7

    jeffie7 Wrong Whole! VIP

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    I can tell you don't do wheelies =) also a 50cc pit bike will do a wheelie if you just move your weight back, even if you use zero throttle. That's called heavy guy on a tiny ass bike. its like leaning too far back on a chair, it falls backwards..... a street bike has a bit more mass and wont flip that easily.

    Only way I can see doing a wheelie on a Ninja 250 would be to take it up to about 6K rpm in first gear, guessing around 20mph? then pull in the clutch, blip the throttle and pop the clutch out. also compressing the springs (standing up and pushing down on your legs) might help if done right before pulling back and poping the clutch.

    My 600 will pull the front wheel up if I do a full throttle run in first gear but If I lay down on my tank it wont.

    For my CBR with my setup, if I take it up to 5500rpm (right when it starts making some power) all I need to do is cut off the throttle and re apply even if its only 1/2 throttle it's still enough to get the front will pop right up with zero clutch use. this can also be done in 2nd gear around 70mph, take the bike up to 12K rpm, cut the throttle and nail it. front end comes up nicely.
     
  16. George777

    George777 ^^ Likes Bewbies

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    My buddy popped a wheelie on his 250 Ninja right in my parking lot...Like Jeffie said, he brought it to about 6 or 7 and just dumped the clutch...he ended up laying it down when he hit the speed bump on one wheel, but he has since gotten the bike fixed...
     
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    +1 for the speedbump.

    that'll teach him for doin a wheelie on me [/speedbump]
     
  18. NissanNiNjA2nd

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    How to do a wheelie on a ninja 250...... 5 mph, 7k, dump clutch. BLAM! Wet clutch FTW!

    Steve, dont extend the rear swing arm its just going to slow it WAY down and it wont turn AT ALL like it used to!
     
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    Celerity Well-Known Member

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    I'm not buying an extended swing arm.

    Just pointing out a really funny picture.
     
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    You should put the stock swingarm back on :ph34r:
     
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