1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

natural gas explosion in my home town

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by chadcharb, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. chadcharb

    chadcharb Well-Known Member VIP

    Messages:
    3,005
    Likes Received:
    294
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Location:
    maple valley, Wa
    Friday at about 345am there was a natural gas explosion that rocked the little town. Woke my parents up that live about 3 miles away and my sister who lives about 7 miles away. Pretty crazy and lucky that it happened at the time it did considering its right on the main street in town. here is a before and after pic of the spot.

    [​IMG]

    this les schuabe is about a half a block away

    [​IMG]


    and heres an aerial photo

    [​IMG]

    look throuh the pics in the link. pretty crazy stuff. i worked at the pizza place all through high school and got my hair cut at the barber shop my whole life...


    http://www.valleyrecord.com/news/256750561.html?mobile=true
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2014
  2. E_SolSi

    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

    Messages:
    30,020
    Likes Received:
    3,949
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Location:
    CT
    damn!
     
  3. Briansol

    Briansol Admins Admin VIP

    Messages:
    21,449
    Likes Received:
    2,110
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2007
    Location:
    CT
    everytime i see the price of NG vs oil i hate that i don't have it....

    and then i see these and say yup, glad i don't have that
     
  4. reikoshea

    reikoshea HS Troll...And Mod Moderator VIP

    Messages:
    12,633
    Likes Received:
    193
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2005
    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    [​IMG]
    Sign is still standing though...
     
  5. chadcharb

    chadcharb Well-Known Member VIP

    Messages:
    3,005
    Likes Received:
    294
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Location:
    maple valley, Wa
    yea ther barber shop is the building still standing in that pic and i dont know how it didnt get knocked over either? it just burned down...
     
  6. hondarin

    hondarin Please enter a value using 50 characters or fewer. VIP

    Messages:
    1,955
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Location:
    Texas; where else?
    Because oil is non-combustible? Seriously dude, accidents happen, and maintenance is required for everything.
     
  7. chadcharb

    chadcharb Well-Known Member VIP

    Messages:
    3,005
    Likes Received:
    294
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Location:
    maple valley, Wa
    im really wondering if this wasnt an accident though. this building has been being remodeled for months now and they just recently discovered that there were some big issues that they didnt know about. last week they got a permit to replace gas lines then boom...kinda seems fishy
     
  8. hondarin

    hondarin Please enter a value using 50 characters or fewer. VIP

    Messages:
    1,955
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Location:
    Texas; where else?
    It's pretty safe to assume that any natural gas explosion in the US is either due to negligence, or it was intentional. It's very rare for explosions to happen when the UL has not been voided, and routine maintenance has been performed.
     
  9. invisibledemon

    invisibledemon Bored Moderator VIP

    Messages:
    7,402
    Likes Received:
    626
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Location:
    Tn
    I've never seen a maintenance crew for gas lines unless there is already a failure.
    never preventative.
     
    reckedracing likes this.
  10. hondarin

    hondarin Please enter a value using 50 characters or fewer. VIP

    Messages:
    1,955
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Location:
    Texas; where else?
    You have a job, right? Maintenance happens during regular business hours. Also, there is maintenance required at the end-user as well. Looks like the explosion occurred in the building, not underground.
     
  11. totalburnout

    totalburnout Well-Known Member VIP

    Messages:
    7,068
    Likes Received:
    126
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2002
    Location:
    NJ
    I will beat the drum here for fuel marketers (since I work with quite a few - although since natural gas is a utility, I do no work with them and have no counterpoint on their perspective other than that the price is lower now).

    Everywhere else in the world, natural gas prices and oil prices are near parity. In the United States, there is regulation that prevents the export and there are no good pipelines to get the natural gas out of the country. Once our domestic natural gas producers can sell their product overseas at 5-10x the selling point that they achieve in the US then natural gas prices are going to go through the roof and will balance out with oil prices. Yes, right now natural gas is cheaper - but the conversion is costly. You are talking $5,000-$10,000 up front for an oil to gas conversion. If the prices even out in less than five years, you likely will not have saved enough to offset your initial investment. They are trying to put the pipeline through now the US to the coast but some environmentalist and other groups are blocking the pipeline. If this pipeline does not work, they are likely going to make a pipeline to from the oil reserves in the Midwest to Canada and then export through the ports in western Canada. China is dying for more natural gas.

    We are currently looking for houses and I would lean towards a house with natural gas because its more cost effective right now but if we bought a house with oil heat - unless it was very old, inefficient and on its last legs, I would ride it out until the furnace crapped out.
     
  12. D16Civic

    D16Civic Matt

    Messages:
    1,469
    Likes Received:
    149
    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2007
    Location:
    Chesterfield Twp, MI
    We've had 2 pretty large explosions here in the last couple years. One was a house about 1/2 mile from my moms. Guy got killed. It was due to negligence by the maintenance crew replacing a line in the street. They apparently jarred the line enough that it caused a very small leak in the house, knew they may have caused a problem, and didn't follow the proper procedures. The house blew up when the guy was sleeping.

    Other one was an insurance job at a commercial laundromat maybe 2 miles from where I work. "Somehow" a 5 inch gas main was left wide open after hours. The guy left 2 Mercedes and his boat in the parking lot right next to the building. It was a cinder block structure and the shit was everywhere. I think something like 25 or 30 houses had to be condemned in the surrounding area because they were all blown off the foundations or otherwise damaged. There was broken windows for like a mile up the street.

    Obviously both were preventable. I wouldn't trade my cheap for now natural gas for anything. Not to much oil heat left around here, most people in the country have switched to propane if they can't get natural gas piped to them, although propane costs were outrageous with as cold as the winter was.
     
  13. Briansol

    Briansol Admins Admin VIP

    Messages:
    21,449
    Likes Received:
    2,110
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2007
    Location:
    CT
    combustible, yes,

    but it's pretty damn hard for it to 'blow up' like these Ng explosions do.

    if my oil tank leaks, i'll know about it... because it will be a mess. not because I blew up
     
  14. BigJ

    BigJ I'm just about that action Boss. VIP

    Messages:
    11,090
    Likes Received:
    408
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2002
    Location:
    Washington
    I wonder what the accident rate is per 100,000 homes for NG is.

    Nothing can be worse than baseboard heaters burning the house down.
     
    chadcharb likes this.
  15. chadcharb

    chadcharb Well-Known Member VIP

    Messages:
    3,005
    Likes Received:
    294
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Location:
    maple valley, Wa
    i agree. i have ng in my house and love it. i fell like as long as your not a total fucking moron its pretty safe
     
    hondarin and Jeef like this.
  16. DarkHand

    DarkHand Senior Member VIP

    Messages:
    5,117
    Likes Received:
    241
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2002
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    In the Midwest, there's literally not a house you can buy that doesn't have NG pipes. My parent's house is in the middle of the woods and cannot get water pipes (wellwater) or sewer pipes (septic system) from the town in 2014, but there's been NG there since the house was built in the 50's.

    NG is as safe as anything else when used correctly, and as dangerous as anything else when not maintained. It's just regular human nature to fear what you're not used to. Heck, my father in law is a very well educated engineer and he was afraid of our lawn mower taking off his feet when he first used it here, since they don't have lawns in Japan.
     
  17. Briansol

    Briansol Admins Admin VIP

    Messages:
    21,449
    Likes Received:
    2,110
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2007
    Location:
    CT
    What is the Risk of an Explosion or Fire From No. 2 Home Heating Oil Fumes?
    Heating oil needs to be heated to 140 degF and sprayed or atomized in order to burn.
     
Verification:
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page