Hmmm, I wasn't sure where to put this but I figured B would see the post in here, and he may have some useful info for me. I'm in a search for a decent set of tuner lugs in a 12x1.25pitch that don't cost an arm and a leg. That means Volks are out. McGards are very close to being out and I rather not spend that much money on lugs, but if it comes to it, I will. I did a google search for Zenkei lugs and it returned a thread on hondaswap where B mentioned Zenkei lugs. Problem is, I can't find them anywhere. They were on ebay about 5 days ago and then mysteriously disappeared (kind've like my GFB pulley kit that I wanted and now I can't find it #%(&#(*%&(#% anywhere, especially not at half the #)(%*#)%(*#% price it once was on ebay - thats another story). I was linked on another forum to heeltoe.com and it appears that Zenkei's aren't sold there anymore, B also linked that same website and the Zenkei's weren't found on the old page he linked either. Now I don't know where I stand and what I should buy. Motegi Gorilla McGard and Zenkei's if I can find them, are all in the running. I want something lightweight (I bought Enkei RPF1's for a reason, and don't want to add .5lbs to each rim because of stupid looking, heavy, bright blue lug nuts, and strong for a reasonable price. I was hoping to spend around $~50. Anyone have any useful info?