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Drake said:
The problem that most people have is the fact that all of the money goes to the RIAA or MPAA the artist never sees a dime.
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this is what everybody says.
its a pitiful excuse.

artists get a small share from the albums. most of the money goes to the label, but, the label are the ones that put up the money for the studios, the rehearsal space, the costs of touring, its all directly related.

it doesnt matter who the money goes to, its copyrighted for a reason, these songs are an investment by the label.

bands are able to function more now without labels because of the surge of good home recording equipment . or they are like NIN and have the money and resources available to get themselves into a studio and pay for their own touring.

if the business plans of the labels were so bad then why would the big names continue going to them. huge names always resign with the same label or a new one when their existing contract is up.
the label removes a lot of responsibility and investment from the artists to enable them to continue making the music that will continue making them money.

there does need to be a change in how the music scene is done because of the availability to download music now.

99cents a song, some people like that, but i buy cd's. every cd i buy, i like every song, so i would rather spend 10-15 bucks on a cd and have something to show for it than pay 99c/song which would average out to about 10-15 bucks in most cases, but at least with the cd i have physical property.
 
At least the Pirate Party now has 1 (possibly 2) seats in the EU... Doesn't help much here, but I guess that's a start. :p
 
The RIAA makes themselve look like an ass every chance they get. They have tried to argue that ripping a CD to your PC is a violation of the DMCA. As for comparing cost between a CD and digital download you have to remember that most bands/artists that most people know of and really like have one good song on a CD. I as well buy CD's when I go to a concert or if it is a self published self released album if its good. But for a lot of people it is more cost effective to download songs at 99c.

I support copy right law, but not the DMCA. If I purchase a product it should be up to me as to how I use it. If i want to put it on my MP3 player and 6 months later throw it on my phone than that should be my buisness.
 
riaa and mpaa justify it by claiming the money will go to protecting the rights of labels and stopping piracy, therefore putting more money into the artists pockets through legal sales.

in the end, smart people will still get it for free, stupid people will get caught.

even if i paid $2000 out of court settlement, i know that some people have more than $2000 worth of music.
 
The whole purpose of this huge fine is to show people like her that downloading pirated music is a huge offence. It's to scare people into not doing it. Judging by this thread it seems to be working.
 
Honda20000 said:
The whole purpose of this huge fine is to show people like her that downloading pirated music is a huge offence. It's to scare people into not doing it. Judging by this thread it seems to be working.
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the hell are you talking about?
nobody here has said "oh man, i think i should stop doing it."

we have two sides, the ones who either dont care about the money aspect or just dont understand it, then you have the ones who feel that pirating is wrong.

i feel its wrong.

but, i see no effects of scare tactics here.
 
i also feel wrong to pay $20 for a piece of shit cd. would i get my money back? hell no i wouldn't.

there are a handful of artists i would pay for, even without hearing the cd first. but 99% of the music out there is bullshit. you want me to pay, make better music.
 
i wont buy a cd unless its either an artist i know i will like.
or i have listened to a majority of the music online.

i dont download the songs, i just find them streaming somewhere (ie: pandora, project playlist, myspace, etc)

then i buy
 
Honda20000 said:
The whole purpose of this huge fine is to show people like her that downloading pirated music is a huge offence. It's to scare people into not doing it. Judging by this thread it seems to be working.
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Like invisibledemon already stated, no one is scared. The only people who have been busted are those who use gen 1 p2p software. The RIAA goes after sites like Mininova and TPB because they are the only ones that have a face so to speak.

I think people in general are just loosing patiance in all aspects of society, who wants to get in a car and drive down to the record store anymore? They have a tiny selection compared to places like Amazon and iTunes plus they get it right away. The only downside exluding iTunes is the use of DRM. At least with a CD you can rip it, burn it or throw it on your media player of choice.
 
I will be buying Green Day's new album. Their last one was pretty good, and I like the new song from their album(Know your enemy).
 
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