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Originally posted by brian11to1+Nov 4 2004, 11:32 AM-->civicious@Nov 4 2004, 11:38 AMWhat's Panda Motors?
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honda block with dsm pistons, i think...
and b20/vtec is the shizzy.
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Originally posted by Calesta@Nov 5 2004, 01:11 AM
Well, $7k would be all new parts, machine shop work and a bunch of other "premium" items.... and if you want to go all motor. You could easily pull 12s with a much cheaper junkyard turbo setup on all stock internal engine with proper turbo sizing and tuning.
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Originally posted by ne3ek+Nov 5 2004, 08:26 AM-->Calesta@Nov 5 2004, 01:11 AM
Well, $7k would be all new parts, machine shop work and a bunch of other "premium" items.... and if you want to go all motor. You could easily pull 12s with a much cheaper junkyard turbo setup on all stock internal engine with proper turbo sizing and tuning.
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ya lol, well i guess the main thing is that turbo is WAY cheaper than n/a and i guess they shouldnt be compared. But i do wanna keep the crx n/a.
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Originally posted by ne3ek+Nov 1 2004, 09:29 PM-->brian11to1@Nov 1 2004, 09:16 PM
Ok...
If you want Cheap and Fast it wont be Reliable
If you want Fast and Reliable it wont be Cheap
If you want Reliable And Cheap it wont be Fast
Sorry had too...
Engine
First and foremost you'll need to convert from an auto to manual and vonvert from DPFI (Dual Point FI) to MPFI (Multi Point FI). For the engine a B16A (B16B from the Civic Type R) will give the best results for its money, its "Rev Happy" nor does it need NOS. an LS swap is nice too. From my expericen I love hte B16 Civic/CRX's... If you swap you may as well forget 87 Octane Safe. If you boost, same answer. For exhuast RS*R makes a wonderful product, its muffled and quiet, but deep.
Brakes/Supension
4 Wheel Disc? Check out a 90-93 Integra, it has 4 Wheel Dsic standard and they rear trailing arms will swap directly onto the Civic.CRX chassis. Or check out a 91 CRX Si or 91 CRX HF for its rear disc brakes. For the bars and such, Skunk2 makes them and various other brands... do some searching.
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sorry, i didn't wanna seem like a total noob lo, hard to do so w/1 post but anyways. Ya I'm familiar with the dp vs mp My buddy has a b18b's ef sedan and the conversion had to be done to it.
I'm not sure if I want a b16 because of it's lack of torque.. and how much work does a b18a/b need to create roughly the amounts I'm looking for? What will sacrifice reliability?
My escort right now has a haltech e6k and it's pretty reliable lol, the only prob i have with it, is that it kills gas like a mofo and it only takes 93 octane (turbo)
I wanted my rex to be ballsy with all my daily driver comforts. lows 14s/high 13s would be prime! anyways just lemme know what you think.
and as far as the si/integra brake system, is there somewhere i can learn more about the propotioning valves/rotor diameters ect? And do i use the stock dx front brakes? are they sufficient? I haven't gotten a good look at them yet. thanks.
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Originally posted by 91crx+Nov 6 2004, 12:38 AM-->Originally posted by ne3ek@Nov 1 2004, 09:29 PM
brian11to1@Nov 1 2004, 09:16 PM
Ok...
If you want Cheap and Fast it wont be Reliable
If you want Fast and Reliable it wont be Cheap
If you want Reliable And Cheap it wont be Fast
Sorry had too...
Engine
First and foremost you'll need to convert from an auto to manual and vonvert from DPFI (Dual Point FI) to MPFI (Multi Point FI). For the engine a B16A (B16B from the Civic Type R) will give the best results for its money, its "Rev Happy" nor does it need NOS. an LS swap is nice too. From my expericen I love hte B16 Civic/CRX's... If you swap you may as well forget 87 Octane Safe. If you boost, same answer. For exhuast RS*R makes a wonderful product, its muffled and quiet, but deep.
Brakes/Supension
4 Wheel Disc? Check out a 90-93 Integra, it has 4 Wheel Dsic standard and they rear trailing arms will swap directly onto the Civic.CRX chassis. Or check out a 91 CRX Si or 91 CRX HF for its rear disc brakes. For the bars and such, Skunk2 makes them and various other brands... do some searching.
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sorry, i didn't wanna seem like a total noob lo, hard to do so w/1 post but anyways. Ya I'm familiar with the dp vs mp My buddy has a b18b's ef sedan and the conversion had to be done to it.
I'm not sure if I want a b16 because of it's lack of torque.. and how much work does a b18a/b need to create roughly the amounts I'm looking for? What will sacrifice reliability?
My escort right now has a haltech e6k and it's pretty reliable lol, the only prob i have with it, is that it kills gas like a mofo and it only takes 93 octane (turbo)
I wanted my rex to be ballsy with all my daily driver comforts. lows 14s/high 13s would be prime! anyways just lemme know what you think.
and as far as the si/integra brake system, is there somewhere i can learn more about the propotioning valves/rotor diameters ect? And do i use the stock dx front brakes? are they sufficient? I haven't gotten a good look at them yet. thanks.
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b16s have more then enough torque for a crx it will fill pretty strong
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Originally posted by brian11to1@Nov 6 2004, 04:56 PM
You shoulda done that a long time ago.
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Originally posted by Calesta@Nov 5 2004, 05:14 PM
Well, N/A has a better power curve for road course racing, and drag is better suited for turbo cars- especially large turbos. I prefer N/A, but that's me. All you highway racers and drag guys out there might like the turbo setups better.
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Originally posted by honda_luvr_2000@Nov 12 2004, 01:45 PM
alright, yes i'm a newbie, but i have to mention it. I heard u wanted to stay w/ 87 octane. good man. little do most people know, the lower the octane rating the more power u get from the fuel itself. for 87 octane, i don't think i'd go over 10:1 MAYBE 10.3:1. but that's gonna be pushing it. u'r gonna have to do most of u'r mods on the outside of the engine, but u could still easily get the 170 whp u want out of a solid b-series.
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Originally posted by civicious@Nov 13 2004, 04:42 PM
You're dumber than a bag of hammers.
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