Celerity
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A third party candidate will NEVER make it through, this is the responsibity of the Electoral College.
The EC ensures that no matter how many votes someone like Howard Stern has, he can never be president.
The intrisic problem with third pary candidates is that they don't really stand for anything. Yeah, they have a schtick that they apply to the campaign, but when it comes down to it, there is nothing that will stop Nader from "changing his mind" on a few items. There is no reason for him to really follow anything once elected.
Whigs became like this, pro that yet anti that at the same time. So it came down to the impossibility of voting between Whig pro-europe/pro militia and Whig anti-europe/pro militia. It wound up not working.
You'll never see a Green or Libertarian in office. Won't happen. nor should it. Libertarian is a great example: There we have half the party being pro-choice and the other pro-life. There are no concrete guidelines.
So instead we go with moderate and extremes. Extreme is how we ended up with Kerry last time around and not Leiberman. People were foaming at the mouth so badly that they chose to go, guns drawn, with the heaviest "Not Bush" candidate they could find. And like I said, Electoral College would prevent some loony like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson from getting in.
And THAT is the problem we are faced with today. Why can't Howard Stern be president? I thought that the original idea was that an American, no matter who, had the same chances at taking the hot seat as anyone else. There should be no exclusion or preferential treatment of candidates, it defeats the purpose! That's part of the reason that our leader goes simply by the title "Mister President" because it shows no higher treatment of him over any other American citizen. Think if we called our president "Your Highness".
If the people speak, their voice should be heard. Bush got the votes in 2004, he's our prez, the people spoke. It was a close race but we've had closer. If the people's voice and vote are trumped by the EC, then we really don't have the free government we're trying so hard to defend, now do we?
Yes, the libertarians disagree amongst themselves about issues, but they were able to come together as a whole and focus themselves on their goal. They didn't let their differences tear the party apart as we are seeing with the big two that control it all.
The two main parties contradict themselves all the time. Republicans... fiscal responsibility? Let me stop laughing before I continue on. The party of smaller government? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Then we have the Democrats who have NO CLUE what to settle on. They're both a huge mess.
And Cel, you got it wrong... Kerry wasn't extreme. Dean, now that was a bit too far even for me. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! Although that is definitely the energy and drive we desire from a President, we aren't ready for The Scream just yet.
Howard Dean is more of an issue than just being alittle over the top. His voting record going against his "Campaign stance" is more of the issue.
And these people should NOT be president. Mister President or not, they are in charge of the military and that alone is reason enough not to allow someone with obviously no talents outside of popularity to be president. Dean is extreme, but Kerry is dangerously to the left as well.
He doesn't even LIVE in the US.