I'll be doing that soon too.
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Originally posted by nismogod+Jun 4 2004, 12:11 AM-->no replacement for displacement. lol. like a V8 kid. o i hope. suggestions via PM are welcome.
Yup. More displacement = more torque = more power. Gotta have the cubes...
Import Builders@Jun 4 2004, 12:17 AM
Calesta, I am doing 2 B16A projects right now. Going for the highest WHP b16A motor in history using the B16A crank, not stroked. It should give you a match!
And I think alot of people will be on the B16A bandwagon, like I am, when they see the 1.6 liter, stock bore, 120 shot NOS setup we are involved in that is sick and will probably run 11.50's in the CRX its going in.
B16s for everyone!
Good thing, well I should say, the GREAT, FREAKING GREAT thing about a B16A is that is LAUNCHES like a MAD dog with hardly any wheelspin in first gear while all the 2 liter crowd is spinning. Nice motor.
calesta, much props for you even going with me on the pistons. You have alot of choices, I am honored.
Jeff
Originally posted by Calesta@Jun 2 2004, 04:23 PM
Here it is...
IB Spec pistons with Swain Technology coatings
IB Spec lightweight rods
85.5mm x 89mm (2044cc)
Skunk2 cam gears
Shorty intake with K&N filter
DC JDM 4-1 ceramic coated header
Carsound 2.5" cat
Greddy Evolution exhaust
Bone stock head except for cam gears, tuned with Hondata (still off some, ran out of time and we were tired as hell), through the cat and on pump gas.
As far as I've seen, this is the highest level of torque anyone's put down with a stock B16 head all motor on pump gas. You can see where the cams top out abruptly at 7000rpm. You can definitely see it on the wideband when the head stops breathing and the mixture starts to run rich.
Now I just need to pay off my debts, then get some cash for a good port/polish job, cams and valvetrain...
More details later, along with a comparison graph between this setup and my previous two builds...
Originally posted by Relix+Jun 4 2004, 03:41 AM-->Awesome # for a b16 with stock cams and Head... My B18c with a stock bottom end and stock head(but skunk2 stage2 cams) only made 2 more HP and about 23 less lbs/ft
I'd love to see any naturally aspirated B16 make torque like that. Skunk2 Stage2 cams are also a huge improvement compared to stock.
MikeBergy@Jun 4 2004, 04:44 AM
Uh...his motor is a bored and sleeved b18c block with a stock b16a head. Not a b16a block.
I'd love to see any naturally aspirated B16 make torque like that.
Originally posted by MikeBergy@Jun 4 2004, 11:28 AM
you give me new aspirations.
I will probably make it, just at a much higher rpm.
Originally posted by radnulb@Jun 4 2004, 03:22 PM
I do. Especially a big-bore B16 like yours Calesta. 160ft/lbs of torque is entirely possible with the extra displacement.
165 ft/lbs from a 1.6L motor - not on pump gas.
I meant specifically B16 in stock displacement. That's the setup that MikeBergy is going for. If you go larger, or course you'll get more torque- and race gas will allow you to run compressions that will produce even more. There's no comparison. Mine isn't a B16 anyway.
Originally posted by nismogod@Jun 4 2004, 11:35 PM
weeeeeeeeeeeee! i wanna build. can someone give me a job doin it all day? lol.
Originally posted by Calesta@Jun 4 2004, 04:03 PM
The larger the better. Remember, mine's a 2.05 liter, not a 1.6.
Originally posted by MikeBergy+Jun 4 2004, 05:12 PM-->Actually Mike, I am boring and sleeving my b16 to 85 mm, for a total displacement of 1.75 liters, at least, that has been my plan. Keeping the stock stroke for rev-purposes though. I think you are confusing my plans with that 200whp b16 on the RM link I aimed you that one day. Now I really want to get that motor done. Then a texas road trip !!!!
That's right, I forgot.
Originally posted by nismogod@Jun 4 2004, 11:35 PM
weeeeeeeeeeeee! i wanna build. can someone give me a job doin it all day? lol.
Sure, I'll give you $0.50 an hour to build houses out of playing cards.
Originally posted by Import Builders@Jun 5 2004, 03:20 AM
the RM b16a didn't make 200 WHP, it made like 19x. It did on the dynapack, that reads 9% higher.
200 WHP is pretty hard on all honda parts bottom end.
I thought the Dynapack read lower than the Dynojet? You're talking about the stock Honda bottom end, right? The crank can handle more than 200whp easy, and once you replace the rods and pistons and size the bearings correctly, there shouldn't be much of a problem anymore, right?
driverunknown@Jun 5 2004, 03:43 AM
Come on Calesta your sig says 2.044Â