Finals!

[jamesA]

I'm not majoring in anything as of yet. I'm just in the planning stages of getting back in college.

I understand things are hard, but if you have all the prerequisites under your belt all it takes is the time and dedication to make at least a passing grade work.

I've taken college courses, DOS programming and networking. Granted I had some experience in the field, but I never did any of the homework and still passed with a B average.

I guess my point was you're paying out the ass for the classes, and you had to have known going into the class that it was going to be hard, how do you fail it?

 

[asmallsol]

In the junior and senior level of classes of engineering, the pre-recs doesn't really help that much at all. I partied my entire first and most of my second year, and kept a very high gpa (including a semester of deans list). Classes were easy as long as you put a little effort in. Freshman classes are really a joke, and just a good way to start out with a good GPA because it will be going down come your Jr. year.

This year, I go to campus at 8am, and most nights I get home at midnight, with maybe a 2 hour break for dinner and RnR time.

It also depends on what major you are. My buddies who are business majors don't study at all party all the time an they get by no problem. If I did that, I would have been lucky to even pass some of my basic freshman classes. That being said, I consider myself a pretty smart person, and I struggle my ass off in my major. I'm not trying to put anyone down, but when people say they took some college courses, its not the same as actually struggling through your true upper level classes.

Freshman and Sophomore year, I would work hard when it came close to the exams or some deadline, but this year, it seems like I do that full time. My only real break is friday and saturday (at least normally, tonight, not being too normal, posting is helpping me get through it) and on sunday, its back at it, and I'll pull 8+ hours. On tuesday's this year, I have an 8am and thats it all day, but I won't get home until 5ish since I'm in just working on homework.

 

[totalburnout]

I'm not majoring in anything as of yet. I'm just in the planning stages of getting back in college.

I understand things are hard, but if you have all the prerequisites under your belt all it takes is the time and dedication to make at least a passing grade work.

I've taken college courses, DOS programming and networking. Granted I had some experience in the field, but I never did any of the homework and still passed with a B average.

I guess my point was you're paying out the ass for the classes, and you had to have known going into the class that it was going to be hard, how do you fail it?

Its simple, you run into something you just cannot grasp or understand.

I'll be confident here and tell you that in a literary sense, I will crush the majority of the country (think 98% according to SATs), but I ran into this math course and simply find it extremely difficult to grasp.

I've never failed a course in my life. I've never had lower than a C in any class and I don't believe that I had more than one or two C's in my lifetime - and this is dicking off and not caring about academics as a middle and high schooler.

This class, since everyone else at this college is ahead of me in terms of math, is a course where they tell you to buy a book. You open the book, load up the CD on your computer and teach yourself the material. I'm sitting here looking at how to graph the inverses of trig. functions while restricting domains, for sin, cos, tan, cot, csc, sec and thinking to myself, "is this a foreign language?"

To me, these abstract ideas of math, graphing points in space is just not a concept which I understand. Sure, I can mimic formulas and actions and get the correct answer for some problems, but when I need to apply the concept and the problem is not verbatim from the book - I just cannot grasp and apply the material.

I don't know his major, but after experiencing this sort of academic stress for the first time in my life (when I'm now 21 and in my junior year of college) I feel for him.

My friend who went on to be a premed major at the University of Maryland squeaked by in his Organic Chem. class. The majority of students fail the course atleast once, but hey thats why not everyone is a pharmacist or doctor.

 

[totalburnout]

It also depends on what major you are. My buddies who are business majors don't study at all party all the time an they get by no problem. If I did that, I would have been lucky to even pass some of my basic freshman classes. That being said, I consider myself a pretty smart person, and I struggle my ass off in my major. I'm not trying to put anyone down, but when people say they took some college courses, its not the same as actually struggling through your true upper level classes.

Majors play HUGE roles in the difficulty of courses, but so do schools.

I know if I went to any other lower level university that I could party everyday, not do homework, and breaze through courses. I came out of a local college with a 3.75avg. and my last semester I didn't even read a book. I was literally upset that I took the books out of saran wrap because I couldn't return them even though I never used them.

Look at my books at this college and you'll see notes and highlighting and the book virtually mangled from working with it so much.

My college's requirements for a business major are way above and beyond that of other schools.

Basic math requirements for a business major are;
Atleast Calc 1
Stat 200 and Stat 300
Finance 300

Other universities don't even require business students to take calc or finance unless they're accounting majors. If I were an accounting major here, my math requirements would be even greater. This is just the basics, most people here go above and beyond the requirements.

I know for a fact that Penn State's Schmeal College of Business is such an intense curriculum that they WILL NOT accept any business transfers that have more than a semester at ANY other university - be in Princeton, Yale, Harvard. They want to mold their business students in such a way that they remain in the Top 5-10 business schools in the nation.

 

[asmallsol]

lol, sorry to pick on business majors if your one. I go to Michigan Tech, which is one of the top Engineering School but for business, its a joke. Those that can't hack it in Engineering transfer to business.

 

[GSRCRXsi]

im failing am engr cpurse cause its at 9 am and i cant get up somtimes. plus i missed an exam so its kinda pointless to try. im retaking it with a different prof. i wont have an issue. WVU is a top school in engr. and i love the classes im taking, right up my alley.

 

[totalburnout]

lol, sorry to pick on business majors if your one. I go to Michigan Tech, which is one of the top Engineering School but for business, its a joke. Those that can't hack it in Engineering transfer to business.

I know the sentiments and I, too, once believed them. Fact is, for better or worse I found myself at a premiere university and no major is a joke here. When a school is Top 20 in the nation for any specific major, you know its going to be especially difficult.

Teaching is supposed to be an easy major, except I know teaching specific schools that are Top 10 in the nation and their education programs are extremely difficult.

Engineering is generally revered as a difficult major anywhere you go, but smaller schools that don't focus on engineering can be jokes compared to the key players.

Its very difficult to walk a day in another's shoes and attempt to envision their daily life, but the picture becomes clearer when you're forced to open your eyes.

I now sympathize with my ex-girlfriend when she calls and vents to me about her internship as a teacher at Penn State. She was accepted among 50 other peers, when hundreds of applicants applied, and puts in 8hour days of teaching and then regularly puts in another 4-6hours attending classes that are required. She's not getting paid to wake up at 6a.m. and then get back home sometime around 7p.m. everyday. ...and I always thought teaching majors were a joke.

 

[totalburnout]

im failing am engr cpurse cause its at 9 am and i cant get up somtimes. plus i missed an exam so its kinda pointless to try. im retaking it with a different prof. i wont have an issue. WVU is a top school in engr. and i love the classes im taking, right up my alley.

I didn't realize that you were at WVU. West Virginia is one of the top party schools in the nation, that could make attending classes a bit more difficult.

Its one thing to struggle with courses, its another to dismiss them and completely neglect going.

You should try to go to class next semester, I'm sure you'll do better than.

 

[BigJ]

I know what you're saying Ian. I'm working on getting into the University of Washington right now for their construction Management program. It's the #1 in the nation, and I'm freaking out about getting in. If I don't I have to go to the #3 school, or number 7. I'm not excited. I want to be #1. lol.

I take my stuff pretty seriously though. I already work construction, etc. Lots of stuff under my belt though.

 

[totalburnout]

I know what you're saying Ian. I'm working on getting into the University of Washington right now for their construction Management program. It's the #1 in the nation, and I'm freaking out about getting in. If I don't I have to go to the #3 school, or number 7. I'm not excited. I want to be #1. lol.

I take my stuff pretty seriously though. I already work construction, etc. Lots of stuff under my belt though.

Well, for myself atleast, the change was a rude awakening.

Penn State at the time I was accepted was #5 in the nation for business. TCNJ (The College of New Jersey) was just undergoing a major transformation and was climbing the ranks of the college ratings, it was #19 in the nation when I was accepted and was moving its way up. It was voted the best value for an education in the NorthEast. I'm not quite sure where the college's rank is at this exact point in time, but its only going to keep climbing the ladder as they bump the requirements to get into the college. Its an average of 1400 SAT along with club requirements/social services and gpa requirements to get admitted into the school. With a little luck, by the time I graduate or within 3years of graduation the school will have crawled into the top 10 in the nation and I'll have a great education, at a bargain, with a good reputation behind the college.

At times, I think how it would have been easier at Penn State. The social life was so much better and academically it was no where near the challenge that this school is because PSU is already established with its place in the rankings..

I couldn't imagine the workload of a school that was #1 in the nation in its field. Be prepared my friend, be very prepared.

 

[Seany-izzle]

I go to class high... thats gotta say somethin.. well, it is Vermont...

Cel, eat my ass.

 

[totalburnout]

I go to class high... thats gotta say somethin.. well, it is Vermont...

Cel, eat my ass.

Huge dealer from down here went up to Vermont for college. He was sponsored by someone up there for snowboarding too.

His family owns a camp in Canada and his uncle wrote the song, "The Cats in the Cradle".

I bring that up because supposedly there was a huge bust in Mass/Vermont that amounted to 27million in pot seized. They were taken million dollar mansions and turning them into inside greenhouses and grow houses.

I was wondering if that kid got pinched up there, since they had a house in a nearby town that they lived in and a few blocks away they had a second house that no one lived in. (hint, obviously it was a grow house and they were doing the same shit here.)

 

[Seany-izzle]

Burton?

Well, I have heard more helicopters than usual... but i know about a year ago a big bust went down. People decided to not sell or were dry for a good month or so. Plus i heard that down in my hometown some people i knew from back in the day were taken away in cuffs. As far as a recent bust, i dunno but there has been a lot more cop activity on the streets and in the helicopter..

 

[totalburnout]

Burton?

Well, I have heard more helicopters than usual... but i know about a year ago a big bust went down. People decided to not sell or were dry for a good month or so. Plus i heard that down in my hometown some people i knew from back in the day were taken away in cuffs. As far as a recent bust, i dunno but there has been a lot more cop activity on the streets and in the helicopter..

I'm not sure who his sponsor was up there, I just know that he hightailed it up there after graduation.

And the 27million bust happened the other day, it was posted on Welcome to NASIOC.com - North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club - News in the off topic forum.

 

[jamesA]

 

[GSRCRXsi]

I didn't realize that you were at WVU. West Virginia is one of the top party schools in the nation, that could make attending classes a bit more difficult.

Its one thing to struggle with courses, its another to dismiss them and completely neglect going.

You should try to go to class next semester, I'm sure you'll do better than.

yea, WVU can get a little crazy at times, football season is the worst lol. i slacked this semester, but i need to step up next semester as its looking twice as hard as last

Analysis of Engineering Systems
Compressible Aerodynamics
Dynamics of Machines
Aerospace Structures
Flight Dynamics

im double majoring in Mechanical and Aerospace Engr. the curriculum is setup for 4.5 years @ 17,18,19 credits a semester. personally i dont want to work that hard. i take between 12-15 creds. plus having a job puts a huge cut in the time i have to study/do homework, etc. so my 4.5 years is looking like 6, currently in my 4th year. but its working out fine. and because im doing the dual thing, i get instate tuition i initially wanted to major in mechanical eng, but switched to dual for the tuition reason, but after taking the classes, i just love aero, maybe more then mechanical. its hard, probably the hardest engr degree to get, and definitely the most math/theory. but i love it.

 

[Harms Way]

The Gang Phenomenon 480 class
Sociology of Law - 380 class
Terrorism and Homeland Security - 397 class
Crime, Justice and Gender - 410 class
Research Methodology - 310 class

I am a Criminology major and will be graduating next year. I don't know how other Universities are prepared, but here (Missouri) classes are ranked by numbers. Freshman = 100, Sohpmore = 200, etc etc, unless you have permission from the professors to enter their 300 level class as a freshman or whatever. Anyway, my grades are good. Gotta keep a good GPA until I graduate if I want a Federal job.

 

[Citizen_Insane]

I've been holding my own so far...but I'm going to get thrashed on Wed. I just finished my Fluid Dynamics final today, which was easy as shit, woo! My class load looks like:

-Fluid Dynamics (ME3332 grade: B/C)
-Statistics, Quality, Reliabilty (IE4521 grade: /D(same as F)/C - depends on final)
-Art History (Arth3012 grade: A/B)
-Intro Art (Arts1001 grade: A/B - I don't try)
-Post Socialist Eastern Europe (Anth3021 grade: Pass)

I'm an mechanical engineering major/art minor (at University of Minnesota Twin Cities). I got fucked signing up for classes, thats why there's all those CLA classes. Unfortunately, it looks like this semester is going to push me back to summer classes and probably another semester/year. I blew off the beginning of the semester way too much and now I'm fucked (statistics should be easy!). Anyway, I'll be studying like mad for the next few days so I don't fail stats and have to retake it.

 

[GSRCRXsi]

woohoo, my professor for my Incompressible Aerodynamics class just emailed me and told me that i got a 90% on the final exam. im surprised, i mean i felt good about the test, but i felt good about the tests during the semster too and only scored a 65 on those. so i passed incompressible with a C over all im happy.

 

[asmallsol]

its a best of seven series, and I am two games ahead. Can he pull of the sweap? Stay tuned.