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Originally posted by civicious@Jul 20 2005, 04:50 PM
Just got done shaving everything...goddamn do I itch.


I'm gonna pick up some of that shampoo when I'm at the studio in Houston this weekend...that site said it has a 50% success rate, I figure since I only smoked once in the last 3 months SURELY it'll cover that tiny, tiny, tiny bit up....if that tiny bit even shows up at all.



Goddamn, I itch.
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That may not be a good idea. If its a common product then it may be tested for as well as the drug. If its a known masking agent and you test positive for it, you'll fail automatically because they'll think you're trying to cover it up.
 
ROFL... as if that isnt completely obvious.. you shaved everything?? Gawd man..

Look kids, Dont do drugs.. It may lead to MASSIVE hair loss!!

:lol:
 
Originally posted by New2TheCarScene+Jul 20 2005, 04:59 PM-->
civicious
@Jul 20 2005, 04:50 PM
Just got done shaving everything...goddamn do I itch.


I'm gonna pick up some of that shampoo when I'm at the studio in Houston this weekend...that site said it has a 50% success rate, I figure since I only smoked once in the last 3 months SURELY it'll cover that tiny, tiny, tiny bit up....if that tiny bit even shows up at all.



Goddamn, I itch.
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That may not be a good idea. If its a common product then it may be tested for as well as the drug. If its a known masking agent and you test positive for it, you'll fail automatically because they'll think you're trying to cover it up.
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Fuck.

You think I could pass it off as saying 'I was around a couplea people who were smoking, I dunno if it's in my system or not though'?

Fuck. Or maybe it won't show up at all? Bah!
 
ok, im not sure about as to how long it stays on your or what not, but a friend of mine had a hair test, and he smokes regularly, he washed his hair with that lice removal shampoo, and it did the trick for him. I'd give it a shot if i were you.
 
Originally posted by Think@Jul 20 2005, 05:54 PM
ok, im not sure about as to how long it stays on your or what not, but a friend of mine had a hair test, and he smokes regularly, he washed his hair with that lice removal shampoo, and it did the trick for him. I'd give it a shot if i were you.
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I do believe I'm gonna try that.


If any DOES show up, I'll just try to pass it off as secondhand smoke....



Bah.


Drugs = Bad.
 
Originally posted by civicious@Jul 20 2005, 04:50 PM
Just got done shaving everything...goddamn do I itch.


I'm gonna pick up some of that shampoo when I'm at the studio in Houston this weekend...that site said it has a 50% success rate, I figure since I only smoked once in the last 3 months SURELY it'll cover that tiny, tiny, tiny bit up....if that tiny bit even shows up at all.



Goddamn, I itch.
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we need pics!

lmao this thread is funny

what do u do anyway that theu require testing, operate heavy machinery?
 
Man a few years ago, I had to get a hair drug test for a job also... I smoked once and that was about 4 months before the test and I still tested positive.. shit sucks
 
Originally posted by MadMaXXX+Jul 20 2005, 06:19 PM-->
civicious
@Jul 20 2005, 04:50 PM
Just got done shaving everything...goddamn do I itch.


I'm gonna pick up some of that shampoo when I'm at the studio in Houston this weekend...that site said it has a 50% success rate, I figure since I only smoked once in the last 3 months SURELY it'll cover that tiny, tiny, tiny bit up....if that tiny bit even shows up at all.



Goddamn, I itch.
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we need pics!

lmao this thread is funny

what do u do anyway that theu require testing, operate heavy machinery?
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I run ripsaws and chopsaws at a sawmill. :D
 
Originally posted by civicious+Jul 20 2005, 07:04 PM-->
Originally posted by MadMaXXX@Jul 20 2005, 06:19 PM
civicious
@Jul 20 2005, 04:50 PM
Just got done shaving everything...goddamn do I itch.


I'm gonna pick up some of that shampoo when I'm at the studio in Houston this weekend...that site said it has a 50% success rate, I figure since I only smoked once in the last 3 months SURELY it'll cover that tiny, tiny, tiny bit up....if that tiny bit even shows up at all.



Goddamn, I itch.
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we need pics!

lmao this thread is funny

what do u do anyway that theu require testing, operate heavy machinery?
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I run ripsaws and chopsaws at a sawmill. :D
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When testing to be a police officer you MUST tell them 100% the truth if not it will bite you on the ass.

If you've smoked pot or any other drugs TELL THEM becuase they will find out no matter what and if you lie to them you'll have your ass handed to you for taking their time up. However if you say yes sir I stole such and such and I did pot in the past and it shows up on the test saying you told the truth. then you're in good shape =)

about 1% of people in this country havnt done something wrong in their past. they don't look for that, they want someone who is going to be truthful and tell them YES I fucked up in the past.

as far as your job goes I would just let them know you're in a band and you've been around smokers in the past during pratice and gigs. however, you've never done it yourself.

If it slightly shows up on the test then they can say well theres bearly anything here so maybe he's being truthful.
 
Originally posted by civicious@Jul 20 2005, 05:45 PM

Fuck.

You think I could pass it off as saying 'I was around a couplea people who were smoking, I dunno if it's in my system or not though'?

Fuck. Or maybe it won't show up at all? Bah!




Well explaining the situation to your employer may be far easier than failing and then being terminated. It sounds like you have a decent relationship with them.

There's a list of masking agents that are tested, where to obtain the list I'm not sure but they do have one. Olympic athletes sometimes get nailed not for actual drugs but for something that masks a drug.
 
Originally posted by jeffie7+Jul 20 2005, 07:14 PM-->
Originally posted by civicious@Jul 20 2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by MadMaXXX@Jul 20 2005, 06:19 PM
civicious
@Jul 20 2005, 04:50 PM
Just got done shaving everything...goddamn do I itch.


I'm gonna pick up some of that shampoo when I'm at the studio in Houston this weekend...that site said it has a 50% success rate, I figure since I only smoked once in the last 3 months SURELY it'll cover that tiny, tiny, tiny bit up....if that tiny bit even shows up at all.



Goddamn, I itch.
[post=529138]Quoted post[/post]​


we need pics!

lmao this thread is funny

what do u do anyway that theu require testing, operate heavy machinery?
[post=529166]Quoted post[/post]​


I run ripsaws and chopsaws at a sawmill. :D
[post=529181]Quoted post[/post]​

When testing to be a police officer you MUST tell them 100% the truth if not it will bite you on the ass.

If you've smoked pot or any other drugs TELL THEM becuase they will find out no matter what and if you lie to them you'll have your ass handed to you for taking their time up. However if you say yes sir I stole such and such and I did pot in the past and it shows up on the test saying you told the truth. then you're in good shape =)

about 1% of people in this country havnt done something wrong in their past. they don't look for that, they want someone who is going to be truthful and tell them YES I fucked up in the past.

as far as your job goes I would just let them know you're in a band and you've been around smokers in the past during pratice and gigs. however, you've never done it yourself.

If it slightly shows up on the test then they can say well theres bearly anything here so maybe he's being truthful.
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That's kinda what I was thinking...fuck...


Ok, the plan as of now is to try the lice shampoo and tell them I'm in a band and I've been around smokers in the past during practice and shows...

Fuck, I shouldn'tve shaved. Goddamn I itch.
 
2.5 Hair testing:

When THC metabolites are in the blood, they go through the blood vessels in the head, and get filtered through the hair. THC metabolites remain in the hair as a permanent record. The hair test costs several hundred dollars ($150-$300) and is rarely given because urinalysis is cheaper (approximately $65) and more accurate. (The hair test equipment and setup goes for over a million). According to Jeff Nightbyrd, hair tests are "widely used in the casino industry." They cut 50 strands of hair from the scalp, and send it in to the testing lab where they liquefy it. "A hair sample is disolved in a series of solvents which extract the drug metabolites and then are analyzed via GC/MS." It can take several hours to days just to extract metabolites. Average hair grows 1/4 inch per month. Typically they just use hair one and a half inches from the scalp; though some labs will take enough to test for up to 3 years. The liquid is run through the most sensitive GC/MS machines available, and can detect as little as 1 ng/mL! The hair test discriminates in that detection is easier in dark hair. Colored people may be discriminated against further because melanin is in their hair, which can be mistaken for THC. However, there is conflicting data as to whether melanin can be detected as THC. Psychemedics Corporation has a PDT90 kit for $75. This home test kit is for parents that want to chop off a lock of their child's hair to find out what drugs s/he is using. Kids- lock your bedroom doors at night if your parents don't trust your judgment on the drug issue.

Beating the hair test is extremely hard, and there are false positives. Bleaching or dying your hair is rumored to work, but it doesn't. I imagine you can shave every hair on your body and claim that you're a swimmer. According to NORML, Aloe Rid by Nexus is a shampoo that will aid in testing negative. Aloe Rid is available only in salons. Healthy Hair, from Sampson Health Products, is another shampoo designed to beat the hair test. Healthy Hair is sold in retail stores throughout Las Vegas. Keith Thrash from Sampson Health Products reccommends precleansing with Aloe Rid prior to using Healthy Hair. Healthy Hair is used in the morning and before going to bed. Each session takes 20 minutes. According to Steve at Sampson Health Products, two out of a thousand people failed the hair test when using Healthy Hair. Byrd Labs is currently developing a shampoo to defeat the hair test. Some have suggested treating hair with oil because THC is oil based and oil soluble. However, there is no proven way to beat the hair test, so it's all heresay and guessing at this point. (If anyone has any success with the shampoos or the swimmer excuse, please let me know). Swimming and washing your hair removes toxins, and Keith Thrash recommends doing both as much as possible. Fortunately, the hair test cannot be used alone as evidence because there are no forensic standards. It can only be used when substantiated by other evidence. Also, there are no intoxication standards. I believe if you tested positive for the hair test that you would probably have a good chance of fighting it. (BlockBuster Video uses the most up-to-date equipment, and passing such a test can be difficult). It takes several months of precleansing to beat the tests given by Psychemedics.


http://www.ureasample.com/pass_a_drug_test...g_test_2b.shtml
 
Originally posted by civicious@Jul 20 2005, 09:49 PM

Fuck, I shouldn'tve shaved. Goddamn I itch.
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i guess you forgot that your eyebrows are made of hair.

either that or you look really stupid. happened to a friend of mine after he shaved the whole sha-bang. they just pulled out a few eyebrows and he failed.
 
Originally posted by E_SolSi@Jul 20 2005, 10:39 PM
THC metabolites remain in the hair as a permanent record. The hair test costs several hundred dollars ($150-$300) and is rarely given because urinalysis is cheaper (approximately $65) and more accurate.





That makes it sound as if urinalysis is a more accurate test, which is false. The hair test is more and costs more money, but provides more detail and thats why its used.
 
either that or you look really stupid. happened to a friend of mine after he shaved the whole sha-bang. they just pulled out a few eyebrows and he failed.


bahahahhaha

who told you there was a hair drug test???
was it a "friend"?
 
Originally posted by New2TheCarScene+Jul 21 2005, 01:44 AM-->
@Jul 20 2005, 10:39 PM
THC metabolites remain in the hair as a permanent record. The hair test costs several hundred dollars ($150-$300) and is rarely given because urinalysis is cheaper (approximately $65) and more accurate.





That makes it sound as if urinalysis is a more accurate test, which is false. The hair test is more and costs more money, but provides more detail and thats why its used.
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the hair test gives FAR more false positives than urinalysis, that is why it is almost always used in conjunction with another test

the only benefit of a hair test is for finding patterns of use, you can look at a much longer time line and using growth estimations you can judge when, how often, and how long the substances were used.
 
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