Shooting at texas army base. 7 Dead

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If you don't want to be tormented by the people you work with, don't surround yourself with a collection of GEDs and high school graduates.

thats the point. he DIDN'T want to be around them. he used the army for a free college. he didn't want to go to war. he got called up and said "fuck this, i'm out" and went nuts.

he tried to repay the college so he could get out. he was just another pussy in the military that went for free college and didn't want to repay his commitment.
 
thats the point. he DIDN'T want to be around them. he used the army for a free college. he didn't want to go to war. he got called up and said "fuck this, i'm out" and went nuts.

he tried to repay the college so he could get out. he was just another pussy in the military that went for free college and didn't want to repay his commitment.

He could have gayed out of the Army. They cannot give you a dishonorable discharge for that. This guy had avenues to get out. I have a feeling he was either acting as a sleeper cell or disagreed with the war and decided he was going to take it upon himself to instill doubt as to our ability to manage our military.

either way this guy planned this out. He is nothing more than a pussy and a traitor.
 
On a slightly different note all of those involved in this incident be it killed or wounded had better recive full benifites. This was a domestic act of war in my opinion. If they do not consider these injurys a line of duty incident these people and their families are going to suffer even more.
 
He could have gayed out of the Army. They cannot give you a dishonorable discharge for that. This guy had avenues to get out. I have a feeling he was either acting as a sleeper cell or disagreed with the war and decided he was going to take it upon himself to instill doubt as to our ability to manage our military.

either way this guy planned this out. He is nothing more than a pussy and a traitor.

I agree with you 110%, on all thoughts.

he could have gotten out if he wanted to. hell, his punk bitch ass could have gotten on a plane to the mother land and never come back. nobody would have thought twice about it.

he hated the war and wanted to fight on the side he felt is right. waterboard this motherfucker until allah appears and saves him.
 
Shouting "God is great" before murdering people makes you a religious extremist. The fact that he used Arabic and referenced Allah, specifies his religion as Islam.

So yes, Muslim extremist (i.e. terrorist).

And the fact that this guy went to the same mosque as some of the 911 highjackers and was lead at the time by a radical muslim extremist. Joined the army in a time of war (in the middle east) and yet didnt want to be a part of it. This dude had this in mind (or something similar) the entire time he has been in the military. There is no other way you can categorize this guy other than a damn terrorist.

Fuck diversity. I like people of all color/creed, but if you don't like the US and what it does/stands for then just get the fuck out, muslims/liberals/socialists/communists/illegals, all of you. Muslims should just be banned from the military.. I really don't care if it is "fair" or not. Stupid movie quote but truth none the less "We all must fear evil, but the evil we must fear the most is the indifference of good men". They don't want to stand up and Really denounce these issues as a community then I can't therefore believe that many of them are good people /end.
 
Im just not buying into this notion of PTSD by proxy. There is something more to this guy then him just loosing it.


I believe its a blend of the PTSD by proxy and him being islamic.
He was a psychiatrist that worked on bases with veterans. He was the outlet for the veterans when they suffered from PTSD. If he suffered torment and verbal bullying for being a muslim, it probably attributed to him aligning himself with the islamic right. He on many occasions denounced the war and was warned to keep his opinion quiet. At that, I don't feel that he was necessarily aligned with an actual terrorist organization but was to the point where he felt that being ostracized, and the FEAR of iraq, pushed him to this sad cost.

He should die for this. It's horrible. People returning from combat and dealing with this. It's freaking horrible. Unfortunately the army isn't a smart organization and don't understand that outside of being a major, the soldier is still human and neglects that no kind of training ever gets rid of the feelings one feels. I really hope he gets the death penalty, and the soldiers get line of fire active duty benefits.








off topic. I hate doctor phil but this chick was hilarious. I heard it on the radio.
YouTube - Former POW Shoshana Johnson Destroys Tom Kenniff for 'Dangerous' Assumptions on Ft. Hood Shootings
 
Joined the army in a time of war (in the middle east) and yet didnt want to be a part of it. This dude had this in mind (or something similar) the entire time he has been in the military. There is no other way you can categorize this guy other than a damn terrorist.

I disagree. he joined for a free education. he went to school via the army and probably had no desire to go to war. he probably had his thoughts on america, but didn't get radical until the war started.

basically just another douce who joined for free school, then went nuts when arabs started the holy war.

imho, he was just like the emo kids turned shooters. he was an outcast and wanted acceptance from a group. he found it by killing soldiers and claiming islam. it really could have been anything.
 
I disagree. he joined for a free education. he went to school via the army and probably had no desire to go to war. he probably had his thoughts on america, but didn't get radical until the war started.

basically just another douce who joined for free school, then went nuts when arabs started the holy war.

imho, he was just like the emo kids turned shooters. he was an outcast and wanted acceptance from a group. he found it by killing soldiers and claiming islam. it really could have been anything.

I am more inclined to agree with this assessment of the situation. Like I said earlier I know a guy who claimed he was gay to get out of the Army when we entered Afghanistan, oh and this was after he re-upped for 6 more years. Yet he still got all the benefits as someone else who honorably served their full term(s).

Also, am I the only one getting the vibe that a helluva lot of people want to spin this another way? Pre PTSD and all that? I mean the little bit of information that is out, the message board stuff admiring suicide bombers. Trying to contact terrorist cells and attending a place of worship that has extremist Imans to me screams Islamic Fundamentalist. But it seems that no one wants to look under that rock. Sure the guy may have been picked on but good lord he was a fucking Major. Your telling me he could get some nuts thrown in the ringer? Even more so in a time where the military is being watched like a hawk for any little case of discrimination?

I think that the chain of command should be investigated to see if anyone dropped the ball on their end that is for sure. But we need to turn over every rock including the one that has a big M on it.
 
do you really think an investigation would do anything? he'a a major. his chain of command goes.... him->Col->general

generals would cover this shit up if they are involved at all.

waterboard the motherfucker for 6 months until he spills the beans.
 
No I really dont think an investigation would turn to much of anything up. And no investigation will ever bring those who died back or remove the scars of those who survived either. But if anyone in the command dropped the ball in regards to this "Major" they need their nuts cut off too. If anything it may provide some of the victims or their families some sense of closure.
 
thats true. but i just keep thinking about how pat tillman died and a lot of people covered that up.
The fact that a Middle Eastern soldier fighting on their side was carrying an AK just points to stupidity in my mind. If anything, have a white soldier swap his M16/M4 for the AK just to avoid a possible confusion.

That video was retarded. I think Larry King was more qualified to talk about the issue then those other 3.

Dr. Phil isn't even a real doctor. He's been to Ft. Hood. So what?

A JAG officer most likely knows little about combat or PTSD. He made himself look like an asshole in that video.

The woman was a POW who had suffered from PTSD. Thank you for your service, but you are not any more qualified to speculate on the matter then anyone else who was there.

Back to the topic, if this guy doesn't get death from this, his life in prison, especially a military prison, will be short lived anyway.
 
I covered the memorial. It was great.

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