Ticketmaster lawsuit

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95b16coupe

Well-Known Member
i fucking hate hate hate ticketmaster. it's a bullshit monopoly that the government doesnt' regulate. it gets stronger and stronger by fucking over ticket buyers. i'm sure most of you have bought a ticket at some point and seen that 50% of what you pay is bullshit fees. well, there is a class action lawsuit against them. i got the email from ticketmaster today.

and yes, i know i wont get anything from the lawsuit. i dont' want to. i just want the country to realize what a rape job this is.

SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIAFOR THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES​
CURT SCHLESINGER and PETER LO RE, )on behalf themselves and the Certified Class, ) No. BC304565 Plaintiffs, ) v. ) TICKETMASTER, a Delaware Corporation, ) Defendant. )
NOTICE OF CLASS ACTION

TO: All persons who purchased tickets using ticketmaster.com during the period from October 21, 1999 through May 31, 2010 and were residents of the United States at the time of the purchase.​

PLEASE READ THIS NOTICE CAREFULLY.

THIS IS NOT A NOTICE OF A LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU

WHAT THIS LAWSUIT IS ABOUT: Plaintiffs filed this case on October 21, 2003. The case is proceeding as a class action on behalf of United States residents. The claims challenge Ticketmaster’s Order Processing Fee and the fee it charges customers who select the UPS Delivery option on Ticketmaster’s website, www.ticketmaster.com (the “Website”), for ticket purchases made by United States residents over the Website between October 21, 1999 and May 31, 2010.

The purpose of the notice is to advise you about the class action, including your rights in connection with the case. This notice is not intended to be an expression of any opinion by the Court as to the merit of the claims or defenses in this case.

The Order Processing Fee Claim. Plaintiffs assert that Ticketmaster’s Order Processing Fee is deceptive and leads consumers to believe that it represents Ticketmaster’s costs to process their orders, and that the Order Processing Fee is just a profit component for Ticketmaster, unrelated to the costs of processing the orders. Ticketmaster disputes these allegationsand disputes that the Order Processing Fee is deceptive.

The UPS Delivery Claim. This claim is brought only on behalf of the Class members who selected and paid for the UPS Delivery option. Plaintiffs allege that Ticketmaster’sUPS Delivery option is deceptive because it leads consumers to believe the price they are paying Ticketmaster is a pass-through of the fees that UPS charges to Ticketmaster and that Ticketmaster substantially marks-up the amount it actually pays to UPS. Ticketmaster disputes these allegationsand disputes that its UPS Delivery option is deceptive.

The Honorable Kenneth R. Freeman has ordered that these claims, made under California’s False Advertising Law and Unfair Competition Law may proceed as a class action consisting of: all United States residents who purchased tickets using the Website during the period from October 21, 1999 through May 31, 2010 (the “Class”). The Court also ordered that a subclass consisting of those class members who also paid the UPS Delivery Price, may proceed as a class action (the “Subclass”). By allowing the Class and the Subclass to proceed as a class action, the Court has not made any determination about the merits of either claim. All Class members will be bound by the outcome of the Court’s ultimate ruling on the Order Processing Fee claim (unless they timely opt out of this case, as described below). All Subclass members will be bound by the outcome of the Court’s ultimate ruling on the UPS Delivery claim (unless they timely opt out of this case, as described below).

If Plaintiffs prevail on their claims, they will ask the Court to award appropriate relief, including requiring Ticketmaster to repay to each Class member any money that Ticketmaster has made as a result of any conduct found to be illegal. Ticketmaster disputes that its conduct is illegal and also disputes that the Class members are entitled to any refunds.

The Court has set the case for non-jury trial beginning January 26, 2011.

The Court has ordered that this notice be emailed to the Class members and publicized. This notice explains the nature of the lawsuit and informs the Class members of their legal rights.

YOUR OPTIONS: If you are a member of the Class and wish to remain in the suit and participate in any potential recovery, you DO NOT need to do anything at this time. You will be represented by the attorneys for Plaintiffs and the Class, who have taken the case on a contingency basis, meaning they will be paid only if they obtain a recovery for the Class. Any fee eventually paid to Plaintiffs’ counsel must be approved by the Court, which may require the payment to be deducted from any recovery obtained in this case, or paid by Ticketmaster, or both.

You have the right to exclude yourself from the class action by filing a written request for exclusion with the Notice Administrator either electronically at www.ticketfeelitigation.com or by mail sent to: Ticket Fee Litigation, Strategic Claims Services, 600 N. Jackson Street, Suite 3, Media, PA 19063. The notice of exclusion must be either postmarked or received (if sent by means other than U.S. mail) by the notice administrator not later than November 8, 2010. You must list your name, address, email address and the name of this case. If you do not exclude yourself from the Class, you will automatically be in the Class and be bound by the results of the lawsuit.

The description of the case is general and does not cover all of the issues and proceeding thus far. A copy of the Third Amended Complaint can be viewed online at www.ticketfeelitigation.com. The file in the case is a matter of public record and may be viewed by visiting the Court Clerk’s office at 111 N. Hill Street, Los Angeles, California.

INQUIRIES: Any questions concerning this notice should be directed to info@ticketfeelitigation.com, or by mail or phone: Notice Administrator / Ticket Fee Litigation / Strategic Claims Services, 600 N. Jackson Street, Suite 3 / Media, PA 19063 / 1-888-511-4623.

The Court has certified the following attorneys as lead counsel for the Class and Subclass: Robert J. Stein, III, Esq. and William M. Hensley, Esq. of Adorno Yoss Alvarado & Smith / 1 MacArthur Place / Suite 200 / Santa Ana, California 92707 and Steven P. Blonder, Esq. of Much Shelist Denenberg Ament & Rubenstein, P.C. / 191 North Wacker Drive / Suite 1800 / Chicago, Illinois 60606. Please do not contact the Court or Defendant’s attorneys.
 

D16Civic

Matt
VIP
I agree 100%. I'm looking to buy some tickets for a production of A Christmas Carol coming up in December, and there's just no way to avoid TM.
 

95b16coupe

Well-Known Member
the closest you can get is to buy tickets from craigslist and just pay face value for it. then you don't have to pay for delivery or shipping.
 

Cashizslick

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I avoid ticket master whenver possible. luckily in nyc most venues sell direct
 

nootrac22

Well-Known Member
VIP
Buy your tickets at the ticket window then. They are a business, and that's what they do, get tickets out to a mass market. Their services are not free they are in business to makemmoney. All this whiny crap and lawsuits are bs. It's simple if you don't like the service don't use it.
 

95b16coupe

Well-Known Member
Buy your tickets at the ticket window then. They are a business, and that's what they do, get tickets out to a mass market. Their services are not free they are in business to makemmoney. All this whiny crap and lawsuits are bs. It's simple if you don't like the service don't use it.

yeah, buy concert tickets at the window when they sell out within 20 minutes of being on the market.

you missed the point of the lawsuit. TM is saying shipping cost $10, when it's only $3. (arbitrary numbers used for example)

or the $3 fee to get the pdf version so you can print it.
Ticketmaster Fees | TicketStumbler New Stuff
 

B16RacerN2NR

Working Hard
VIP
yeah, buy concert tickets at the window when they sell out within 20 minutes of being on the market.

you missed the point of the lawsuit. TM is saying shipping cost $10, when it's only $3. (arbitrary numbers used for example)

or the $3 fee to get the pdf version so you can print it.
Ticketmaster Fees | TicketStumbler New Stuff
:werd:

The only time i've been able to save a few bucks using Ticket Master is to click the option to pick up the tickets at "Will Call." But that still only saves me like $8 :(
 

95b16coupe

Well-Known Member
seriously though, i get it. everybody needs their cut.

but just say the ticket cost $60. i'll gladly pay $60.

but if you break it down and tell me the ticket is $40, and add $20 in fees that have no transparency and just seem like i'm getting raped, i'm not happy about it.
 

damien360kl

New Member
This is bs ok if you feally want to go to a show then pay what you have to pay that's it. Don't complain because they are charging you extra that's how a business makes money by charging what they have to and then some simple as that. Like the people said before if you don't like it go to the venue and buy the tickets from the box office. but if your too lazy or you can't get to the box office then pay the damn delivery fees! (Rant over) lol
 

95b16coupe

Well-Known Member
This is bs ok if you feally want to go to a show then pay what you have to pay that's it. Don't complain because they are charging you extra that's how a business makes money by charging what they have to and then some simple as that. Like the people said before if you don't like it go to the venue and buy the tickets from the box office. but if your too lazy or you can't get to the box office then pay the damn delivery fees! (Rant over) lol

ok dipshit. i'm not complaining because they are charging fees. you don't get it. they are claiming $10 for shipping when it only cost $3. plus, i was saying they should just include it all in the price of the ticket instead of listing all the fees.

try to go to a concert on the day of the show and get a ticket. ever try and get anything for jay-z, lady gaga, eminem, justin bieber, etc? you can't just walk up to the gates for concert tickets.
 

PhyRe

Senior Member
seriously though, i get it. everybody needs their cut.

but just say the ticket cost $60. i'll gladly pay $60.

but if you break it down and tell me the ticket is $40, and add $20 in fees that have no transparency and just seem like i'm getting raped, i'm not happy about it.


so wait u dont mind geting raped as long as the rapest doesnt give u a list of where hes puttin it?
conveniance taxes are a bitch
 

95b16coupe

Well-Known Member
so wait u dont mind geting raped as long as the rapest doesnt give u a list of where hes puttin it?
conveniance taxes are a bitch

pretty much. if a ticket is $60, it's $60. but if you tell me it's $40, then add on $20 in shit that isn't true (according to the lawsuit), it pisses me off.
 

Drake

Well-Known Member
VIP
So is the lawsuit based on the fact that Ticketmaster just adds the fees to the total cost without breaking it down? Or the fact that Ticketmaster is adding those fees in general?
 

GSRCRXsi

Super Moderator
VIP
not the fact that they have fees, but the fact that the fees are being presented as "hey this is what it costs us to process/ship this, so thats why you are being charged for it" and really they are "it costs us $x.xx to do this, but we are charging you $xx.xx so we make more money"

its really just gross overcharging for things they shouldnt be making money on, like shipping. its fine to charge for a service. its not fine to charge 10 bucks shipping when it costs 3, just to make more money.
 
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Drake

Well-Known Member
VIP
Gotcha, that makes more sense
 

totalburnout

Well-Known Member
VIP
not the fact that they have fees, but the fact that the fees are being presented as "hey this is what it costs us to process/ship this, so thats why you are being charged for it" and really they are "it costs us $x.xx to do this, but we are charging you $xx.xx so we make more money"

its really just gross overcharging for things they shouldnt be making money on, like shipping. its fine to charge for a service. its not fine to charge 10 bucks shipping when it costs 3 to make more money.


Its actually illegal in some states to charge additional costs for "shipping", which is why most intelligent businesses dub the line item as "shipping and handling".
 

invisibledemon

Bored
Moderator
VIP
the problem is that they have a monopoly, which is illegal, but nobody is willing to do something.
i fucking hate that company with a passion.
yes, i understand that they need to turn a profit, but the take advantage of the fact the they are the only retail seller for most venues.
 

95b16coupe

Well-Known Member
yes, i understand that they need to turn a profit, but the take advantage of the fact the they are the only retail seller ALL most venues.
fixed

you can't get tickets to a sporting event, concert, or theater show without getting fucked by them and Live Nation.

http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/01/26/ticketmaster-live-nation-merger/

thank your local congressman. we discussed this before about laws for copyright infringement getting passed. ie internet laws. when someone can gain or lose this much money, the company buys your government.
 
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