Battle Pope
Well-Known Member
Kinda funny how a lot of serious, valid discussions seem to go to crap once New2TheCarScene gets involved...
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Originally posted by Battle Pope@Dec 7 2004, 02:12 PM
Kinda funny how a lot of serious, valid discussions seem to go to crap once New2TheCarScene gets involved...
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Originally posted by New2TheCarScene@Dec 7 2004, 01:00 PM
What good is a vote if they're not educated or don't understand what they're voting for. I don't care how many kids discuss politics online, they have not a clue what it is like in the political world or the BS that a canidate or president has to go through to get from Point A to Point B. Most of the time, misinformation is just spewed here and there and the kids do exactly as you said...they regurgitate what their parents say to them without fully understanding the totality of it all. Another common place is for kids to live in la-la land like I said and completely disregard how the political system works.
Should the system be better? Of course...
Will the idealistic crap that kids think can get done, get done? Of course not.
I definately would've changed things when it came to this war, but unfortunately most of the time the presidents hands are tied by a lot of other issues before he can just set a plan in motion.
There's a million different forces and pressures on the president at once and so many things behind the scenes that most of us don't even understand. Yet, Mr. Joe Internet Tard can run the president better than anyone else because they know it all.
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Originally posted by Battle Pope@Dec 7 2004, 01:12 PM
Kinda funny how a lot of serious, valid discussions seem to go to crap once New2TheCarScene gets involved...
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Originally posted by New2TheCarScene@Dec 7 2004, 12:46 PM
Its called political red tape. I won't even read any further.
Think before typing.
And about the refund check, I dont give a shit if it wasnt a life changing experience, my point was it was MORE than the tax relief that Clinton gave which was nothing except raising taxes. So bitch some more. Just understand that the government will never be willing to hand out 'oodles' of free money, they're more ept to take it from you.
Think again, my blind Republican. It's called Bush Family red tape.
Years ago, there were talks of a deal between Afghanistan (i.e. the Taliban) and US companies to build a natural gas pipeline through Afghanistan. The company specifically geared towards this was a company called Unocal. You know them by the "76" logo. Uno stood to make billions upon billions with that pipeline.
The company who was to get the contract for this pipeline? Halliburton.
The deal didn't go through.
Now... Afghanistan. Taliban. The guys harboring Bin Laden. The guy who had attacked our embassies and the Cole. Why would we be dealing with them knowing this?
Along comes 9-11.
Guess who had Bin Laden? You guessed it, the guys over in Afghanistan! After ripping the Taliban government out of power, we appoint our own people there to manage the new government.
Who are these people? Former Unocal executives. Guess what the FIRST thing they did was? Ding ding ding!!!! Signed the contract to build that pipeline!
And guess who STILL got the contract. Ding ding ding again!!! Our friends at Halliburton.
Bin Laden? Oh, he got away. Who cares, we got our multibillion dollar pipeline.
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note to unnamed retards...
this "refund check" was nothing more than a thinly disguised loan from uncle sam to the american taxpayer...
the refund check is actually a standard tax credit that you would normally claim on your taxes that you file by april 15th...
and guess what, if you recieved your holy "tax refund" check, then you weren't able to claim that credit, but instead just claim that yes, you already recieved the money...
so lets here how great bush is for giving us OUR OWN FUCKING MONEY...
and this brings to mind your arguement that people on this forum only spout what the media tells them... well this, my friend, seems to be a perfect example of hypocracy...
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Originally posted by New2TheCarScene@Dec 7 2004, 11:57 PM
For not ever watching F 9/11, you can quote it pretty fucking well.
A lot of BS is all I see. Speculation, mere fucking speculation. Its cool to be able to say something because on the surface it appears to be true rather than using some inductive reasoning and figuring things out first before drawing a conclusion.
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And taxes always are getting our 'own' money so whats to bitch about there?