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Hey, thanks for bringing back a dead thread. Good work. But since you did, I might as well throw my 2 cents out there...
First of all, have you even looked into whether or not the scientific community has commented on these theories? Obviously not. In fact, it's obvious that you barely even read this thread before you hit the reply button. Please reference the book inspired by Popular Mechanics article mentioned earlier by Silverchild79 (Barnes*&*Noble.com - Books: Debunking 9/11 Myths, by David Dunbar, Paperback ) for the "debunking" that I was talking about.
And yes, I have watched the videos. I don't pride myself on making uninformed statements. I don't just go around spouting crap that I know nothing about. I've watched the videos, I've read the opinions, and I've read the rebuttals.
The problem with all that stuff, regardless of whether there have been a few halfway valid points, is that no one with any serious credos has ever proposed anything like that. The majority of those videos are made by douche bag college kids with no credentials whatsoever other than some mediocre video editing skills. And who are the only famous people that you always hear espousing this kind stuff? Charlie Sheen?!?
I'm sorry, but I'm not really inclined to put much stock in anything that someone like Charlie Sheen says. First of all, the man's an actor, not a scientist, politician, or demolitions expert of any kind. Secondly, he's an admitted alcoholic, sex addict, and domestic abuser. Why should anyone give a shit about what Charlie Sheen thinks about the 9/11 attacks???
I'm sorry, but I just haven't heard any hard evidence from anyone with enough credos to make me buy into this stuff yet. If we actually had lots and lots of well-renowned (and non politically biased) scientists putting out studies on this, plus we had all kinds of people with inside government information coming out and telling us this was a conspiracy, then I might be willing to consider it again. Until then, my decision is made on the subject.
And finally, if you actually believe that the government had a hand in 9/11 and the deaths of thousands of US citizens then why aren't you out in the streets protesting rather than bickering with people on Internet message boards?!?!?
And let me make this clear, I really don't care if that's what you believe. I'm not criticizing you for having an opinion that's different than mine, I'm criticizing you for not acting on your beliefs. If you truly believe that this is how things are, you're not going to change anything by arguing with me on HondaSwap.com about it...
Oh, and I'm sorry, but it's really hard to take you seriously when you post your opinions in a barely legible gigantic run on sentence with multiple mis-spellings. Just something to consider...
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i wasnt trying to write a novel when i was writing it, and am not going to take extra time to look at what i typed to see if on accident i pressed the key next to the one i meant to press i dont care about it that much, im not saying i know exactly what happened that day im just saying before you make an opinion about it listen to what other people have to say, im not out protesting about it because im not in to politics and all that other crap, i just saw what you wrote to the guy who made this thread and it looked as if you were being ignorant just as the guy who wrote nutjob and qouted what i said. Some people as soon as you say something wrong that the government might have done immediately say your crazy, im happy to be born here in this country but i do not put it past the government to do something like that.
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Since when do you have to be into politics to stand up for what you believe in? I'm not into politics, neither is the arrogant male who protests against abortion outside the Planned Parenthood. I didn't 'protest' back, but, I did speak my mind. I basically made him look stupid and I can say, I felt better about that. Basically, I told him that I appreciated that he had the freedom to express his opinion, but I'd wished that he'd at least be honest and show a true picture of what he's protesting. He was basically protesting to make it look worse than it is.
He then made himself look like an idiot when I asked him when a 'baby' is considered a 'fetus' and he answered wrong. I hope I made him think about what he's standing up for.
I don't mind that you express your opinion, just when you come across as an idiot, no one will take you seriously. Sadly, a lot of the people in this country will believe anything you put in front of them if you simply ACT as if you know what you're talking about. No one does their own research anymore or checks the sources.
Exactly! If you seriously believe that the government had a hand in killing 3,000 American citizens then why are you not furiously protesting? It has nothing to do with politics. And like I said, I'm not criticizing you for having that belief, I'm criticizing you for not doing anything about.
If you're not willing to do anything about it, then why does it matter what I say to some guy on a website? Why get all agitated about it?
And I don't think you read my post very well, either that, or you didn't understand it.
Like I said, I have listened to other people's opinions, lots of them, on both sides of the issue, before making up my mind about it. I don't criticize for no reason. I quoted my sources for you, and I gave you plenty of good reasons why I believe the way I believe.
And I don't pretend to know everything concerning 9/11 either, but your assumption that just because I don't believe the conspiracy theories means I'm 100% pro-Bush, pro-Republican, pro-this administration, pro-grovernment, whatever, is presumptuous and wrong. Just because I don't believe that the 9/11 attacks were a secret government plot doesn't mean I'm a lemming, it just means I don't believe that the 9/11 attacks were a secret government plot.
I have my beefs with the government just like everyone else, and no, I don't automatically get mad whenever someone criticizes it.
The point is that I don't believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories, and I have done the research necessary to form that opinion and logically argue for it. Don't tell me I'm uninformed simply because I don't agree with you...
Oh, and one more thing...
You changed your story from your first post to your second. In the first one you pretty much called me an idiot for not believing the 9/11 conspiracy theories. In your second post you changed it to "uh...well...I just think you shouldn't bash on the guy who started this thread."
Just for clarification, I didn't bash on the OP for the opinion he holds, I bashed on him because I'm sick of seeing this stuff brought up over and over and over. Most of the 9/11 conspiracy crap has died out by now, but occasionally somebody will drag it back out of the closet again for another go-around.
Here's an illustrations for you:
And from reading other people's responses, it looks like I'm not the only one who felt that way when they saw his post.
You changed your story from your first post to your second. In the first one you pretty much called me an idiot for not believing the 9/11 conspiracy theories. In your second post you changed it to "uh...well...I just think you shouldn't bash on the guy who started this thread."
Just for clarification, I didn't bash on the OP for the opinion he holds, I bashed on him because I'm sick of seeing this stuff brought up over and over and over. Most of the 9/11 conspiracy crap has died out by now, but occasionally somebody will drag it back out of the closet again for another go-around.
Here's an illustrations for you:
And from reading other people's responses, it looks like I'm not the only one who felt that way when they saw his post.
Oh, and one more thing...
You changed your story from your first post to your second. In the first one you pretty much called me an idiot for not believing the 9/11 conspiracy theories. In your second post you changed it to "uh...well...I just think you shouldn't bash on the guy who started this thread."
Just for clarification, I didn't bash on the OP for the opinion he holds, I bashed on him because I'm sick of seeing this stuff brought up over and over and over. Most of the 9/11 conspiracy crap has died out by now, but occasionally somebody will drag it back out of the closet again for another go-around.
Here's an illustrations for you:
And from reading other people's responses, it looks like I'm not the only one who felt that way when they saw his post.
I did not call you an idiot for not believing it I do not care if you believe it or not but if you do not like someones thread they are posting just do not respond, why go in there telling them their thread sucks?, and about bringing up and old thread, i did not look at the date the thread was made, it was still on the first page when i wrote so i just assumed it was new, I am used to being on honda tech where everything is on like the 10th page in an hour.
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when did I ever say you were 100% pro bush? hmmmm looks like you put words in my mouth, and i understood your post fully, using your spell check and taking the time to put in the correct punctuation on something so formal as honda swap doesn't make you smart, but if it makes you feel like it then yeeee for you!!!!
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LS_VTEC
you get the BRAKE
#1, all that information about the american currency being controlled by international bankers is 100% true. To goto war = $ signs in those bankers eyes. America, regardless of its allies spend Billions on War. Where does that money come from? Controlled societies. It all started YEARS ago within our own government. That money is not "given" to us, it is infact loaned to us with a thing called "interest". I'm not very political whatsoever, but if you do simple reading of our country's history it will all make sense. I'm not saying that 9/11 was a planned attack for more money, but look who is in control? Clinton was anti-war. Bush is PRO war. Look at Bush's family tree. Bottom line, its all about MONEY. Money = Power. Power = Fear.
LS_VTEC
you get the BRAKE
As for terrorism, its not just "happening". It is being funded from people who WANT war. Bush has permanent troops in Iraq. Why? He says they will reconstruct Iraq to be a better place. That's BULLSHIT. He is there for the oil. He gives two FUCKS about those people. America is in constant debt and looks to the working citizens to pay it back with bullshit ways to tax anything and everything that is controlled. This government has turn to shit long ago but so many fail to see the big picture.
Uh, no...I don't use spell check on Hondaswap. Ever. This is how I write. I guess I'm just not a retard. Sorry if this offends you.
And I never said that you said that I was pro-Bush. You made a comment to the effect that sometimes when a remark is made criticizing the government, people jump on it and get all angry for no reason, that they're lemmings or pawns or whatever.
What I meant by saying all of that was that I don't care if you criticize the government, or the president, or whoever/whatever you want. I'm not one of those people that blindly believes everything I'm told about the government, and I don't criticize others for voicing their opinions. I just don't happen to believe this particular thing, that's all.
And in regards to this:
Fine, you didn't call me an idiot in those exact words, but you did essentially say that anyone who doesn't believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories is a moron. Here, your own words:
So yeah, technically you're right, you didn't call me an idiot. But you pretty much inferred it by calling me "crazy" for not buying into the hype and (according to you) not doing any research.
And here, now I wil mis-spehl sum werds 4 u and use bad punkshuashons and gramer so u will feelz better, k?
first of all show me where I spelled words like that? and second of all your still reading it wrong or putting words in my mouth and you even quoted it, I said if you believe that the governments side of the story is scientifically correct then your crazy, its common sense, look at the hole in the pentagon for example. I didn't say anything about somebody not believing the 9/11 conspiracy being crazy.
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My god dude, it was a joke. Chill.
And what alternative is there to believing the "government's side" of the story? I take that as, "if you don't believe that something was screwy here then you're crazy" i.e. if you don't believe these alternative theories than you're crazy.
Correct me please?
Celerity
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South Park had it right.
Even if the tower's real estate was so wanted, it's so much easier and cheaper to simply buy it.
There is no need to do any of the conspiracys that are discussed. Same with Alex Jones and his shit, If there was a secret society, then I'm GLAD that world leaders are bred from it and rule in it's best interest. Look around you, Would you want a regular schmoe with the keys to the kingdom ? A walmart greeter ? Hardly.
I'm a couple doors down from Skull and Bones. They have great bake sales.
Even if the tower's real estate was so wanted, it's so much easier and cheaper to simply buy it.
There is no need to do any of the conspiracys that are discussed. Same with Alex Jones and his shit, If there was a secret society, then I'm GLAD that world leaders are bred from it and rule in it's best interest. Look around you, Would you want a regular schmoe with the keys to the kingdom ? A walmart greeter ? Hardly.
I'm a couple doors down from Skull and Bones. They have great bake sales.