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2001 type r

Discussion in 'General Tech and Maintenance' started by redef91, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. redef91

    redef91 Senior Member

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    hi u doing guys just need some adivce. i have 01 type r and it turns oil black fairly quickly i will change the oil and 1500 miles it is black. and is down about 1quart down sometimes 1 1/2 quarts. pulls hard still and doesnt feel any slower than before. any thoughts ive researched but people say pistons rings, if that was the problem wouldnt that b hurting my performance. engine has about 90k on it.:confused::confused::confused:
     
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    George777 ^^ Likes Bewbies

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    Are you smoking out your exhaust? Do you have any leaks? Do you have a CAI? More details about what is/isn't done to the car.
     
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    redef91 Senior Member

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    yea its got cai, smokes lil black when i get on it no cat on it. p28 ecu tuned on hondata.
     
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    BoostedHatch get tha fuck out!

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    ok a honda engine is gonna use oil because of the vtec and the reason is is has to flow through the silonoid and that silonoid tells the ecu that is has to use oil pressure to lock the vtec in place so a vtec engine is gonna use more oil then a non vtec. now the black oil is build up in ur motor that is getting cleaned out and also what kind of oil do you use?
     
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    redef91 Senior Member

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    i use mobil 1 10w30 syn. i use to use 5w30 syn but it burned more quickly.
     
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    BoostedHatch get tha fuck out!

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    never use 5w 30 it may say its recommended but its way to thin for how high of rpm a honda can throw and use valvoline it works so much better.
     
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    redef91 Senior Member

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    thanx for tip ill try it and ill let u know how it goes next oil change is coming up anyways.
     
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    FLounder power hungry VIP

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    having vtec has nothing to do with BURNING oil... yes it does use oil pressure to activate vtec, but that doesnt explain a damn thing about why this guy is burning oil. i would say that you are most likely getting some blow-by on the rings. i had an old LS motor that did this burning oil thing with the little bit of black smoke at high rpms.... everything seemed fine until one day it just took a crap on me... it had about 175k miles on it. you probably havent noticed the power loss yet because it is so gradual, and also because its probably not very much.... yet
     
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    BoostedHatch get tha fuck out!

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    ok mr. honda tech thats what i was told by a guy that works at honda or a living.
     
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    YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese

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    Being a smart ass doesn't help.

    VTEC does not burn oil. Not at all. mdpsEG is completely correct.

    To the OP:
    Please do a compression test and post up the numbers for each cylinder. This should tell you/us. It could just be minor right now and you caught it early; but sounds like rings to me too.
     
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    BoostedHatch get tha fuck out!

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    well i guess u learn something new everyday. im just going on what i was told.
     
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    YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese

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    Right on. Well, do us a favor (and I'm not trying to sound like a dick), but only answer questions your 100% on. Because mis-information costs us lots of time and money....
     
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    BoostedHatch get tha fuck out!

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    caboose USDM to the bone

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    Ok, 5w-30 and 10w-30 will not make a difference, run what you want. I choose 5w personally, because I like the extra protection during cold starts in the winter.

    You are burning oil. You say it does it on acceleration, so it's probably rings. A compression test may not tell you anything. If I had to take a guess, you probably have stuck oil rings. You'll still have good compression, but you will burn oil pretty good. I've heard that you can get them unstuck by running some sort of crankcase cleaner through it, ie seafoam. I personally don't like crankcase cleaners, because they aren't nice to your seals, and they knock off a lot of dirt all at once. Your also suppose to change your oil like 1000mi or so with synthetic for a while until it starts looking cleaner.

    You might try just the second part, idk if that will work though.

    On my accord i just replaced the rings and cleaned out the ring seats, and the thing ran like a dream. So much smoother now, and better power.
     
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    dont switch to some crapy old dyno oil keep useing the quality mobil1 that you have been using and also mr honda you should run the manufacturers recomended oil if you run thicker you run in to oiling problems like bearings not geting oil because the tolerances are to tight for the thick oil to get in to so you will be esentialy runing the bearings dry. thats why thicker oil raises oil presure but on a side note you should be just fine runing 10w30 in the summer and if you would like to know i run royal purple 5w20 in all my hondas even my 91 hatch that has 276k on it used to run the racing 11lite but it burnt to much and it has a weight rating of 0w10
     
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    BoostedHatch get tha fuck out!

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    got DICKHEAD? i already said im sorry.
     
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    phyregod !!YTINASNI

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    Wow, the blind are leading the blind here. I'd help, but this is kind of entertaining.
     
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    :popcorn:

    As soon as I read the comment on madtyteJDMVtec burning oil I sat back and started enjoying the show.
     
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    caboose USDM to the bone

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    I take it you guys see something funny...

    gosh, hope it wasn't my post, lol
     
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    Oil will start to turn a little dark after just a few hundred miles of driving, so it looking black at 1500 miles I wouldn't worry too much about. Now, losing oil is a different story. 90k is nothing on a honda motor, especially an ITR motor. ITR motors are hand built.

    If your seals are starting to go, i'd switch to a synthetic high mileage oil. They make both the regular high mileage and synthetic high mileage so make sure you don't just grab anything that says high mileage on it...

    and for the record, 5-30 and 10-30 oil has the same thickness when hot, so going from 5-30 to 10-30 makes no difference at all.
     
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