Capt. Orygun
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I agree, god does not want us to fear it, fear disables love and understanding
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I agree, god does not want us to fear it, fear disables love and understanding
i agree also
Capt. Orygun
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Another problem with the doctrine of Jesus is his stance on resistance. During the sermon on the mount he says "Resist not evil, turn the other cheek"
I do not believe God wants people persecuted while nobody does anything to stop it, that simply cannot be the will of God. What if you applied that to Dafor? Or the Holocaust? Or the genocide in the Balkans? We aren't supposed to stop that? I would submit that it is the will of God that we live as brothers and that the strong should protect the weak, not turn a blind eye to their explotation.
I do not believe God wants people persecuted while nobody does anything to stop it, that simply cannot be the will of God. What if you applied that to Dafor? Or the Holocaust? Or the genocide in the Balkans? We aren't supposed to stop that? I would submit that it is the will of God that we live as brothers and that the strong should protect the weak, not turn a blind eye to their explotation.
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Its people like that who make me look like a psycho when i go to church.
formby
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I agree, if we were to take the entire Bible literaly, then we would be living like a 3rd world country. If I remember right, there is a part of the ot that says we cannot eat pork, I personally don't know of ANY that follows that. Although I am sure there is probably one or two out there. So if most major religion leaves out certain details such as this I am not sure what to believe. I also know that the bible has been rewritten by different people with sections added and removed. So the only conclusion that I can personally make is that you must lead your life to the best of your abilities and hope for the best.
I don't care if your the Pope, a saint, whoever you will make mistakes and I don't think your going to burn if you are sorry for what you did and can make up for it. I like the quote in my signature for that reason.
He's says,
This is WIDE open for interpretation.
What i read means as soon as he defeated sin through his resurrection, he replaced the old covenants of animal sacrifice with a new form of atonement for sin. This passage has nothing to do with killing fags.
The passage says "he who curses his father and mother". It's not talking about a disobedient child, It's talking about a child that has lost all respect for parental authority. If we eliminated all the children who have this attitude the world would be a much better place. Also if a child knows he's gonna die if he curses his parents, he probably won't do it.
"Did you hear what happened to Johhny?"
"No, what happened?"
"He told his mom to fuck off"
"O, that's what that pile of rocks outside the city was"
Capt. Orygun
Win the Day
While the second part of that quote is wide open for interpretation the part that says "Until Heaven and Earth Fall away" isn't. Knowing that "until everything is accomplished" means until everything is said and done, the heaven and the earth
Also, a loving God would at NO time demand the execution of a child, Jesus himself berates the Pharisees for not following through with the stoning of children
and to the guy who said that about not eating Pork, I thought that to until I read
BibleGateway.com - Passage*Lookup: Mark 7:14-22;;
is is argued by many to lift the dietary laws of the old Covenant, but it is quite obvious that the stonning of children is still law, and God wouldn't call us to hold such a law... ever
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Except not all of us are so ignorant to believe that thats the only way this world could work.
As someone said earlier, I feel if there is a God than he will judge me on my good deeds in my life, not whether or not I said I believed.
I live a good life whilst believing, I don't think that puts me in any jeopardy should I have been wrong. I feel as though if I was wrong, God would accept my flaws, my mistakes, and who I am for an overall good person and save me.
This is why I hate religion. What the fuck is the point of this life if we're supposed to live in fear of whats going to happen to us for 'eternity' after this is over?
This life isn't eternal, why do we so deeply believe that the next one (IF there even is one) is eternal?
Maybe my reasoning is flawed, but since "God" is all knowing and so supreme, why not give us some of that knowledge so that free will doesn't get in the way of us living a life of worshipping and loving Him?
I mean what the fuck, he loves us and gave us free will, but then he's going to cast us out by choosing to USE what he gave us to use? That seems a bit hypocritical to me, and last I knew God was supposed to be perfect. Hypocrisy is a flaw, not part of a perfection.
Capt. Orygun
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that and creating a populous "for your glory, to worship you for all eternity" isn't a very Godly reason to create humanity at all. Kind of a metaphysical corvette-esque penis extension
A perfect and all powerful being doesn't need much positive reinforcement
A perfect and all powerful being doesn't need much positive reinforcement
Battle Pope
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And on the 8th day, God dyed his beard and bought a Porsche, and he saw that it was good.
Ever think of it like this:
What could be more fulfiling for an almighty being than to create beings that had a choice, be evil or be righteous, and have them choose with a free will to follow him.
You might be onto something. Maybe humanity is God's midlife crisis.
Capt. Orygun
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oh no, I strongly agree with you on this. We were created for a reason and you explain it well
my point was
while the Christian faith has many Godly and positive points there are many that are now understood as barbarian (stoning of children, god created us to stroke his ego, etc). That being said it can't be THE religion because THE truth is never changing and never found wanting.
Jesus's teachings have had 2000 years to be misconstrued and misinterpreted. You'd have to talk to the man directly to know if he has "The" religion. I believe prayer works, and talking directly is always better than reading someone elses translation of someone elses translation of what someone taught 2 millenia ago.
Battle Pope
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I think we should all go buy Porsches.
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