lsvtec
GNU/Linux Evangelist
How about you show us your never ending knowledge of chemistry. I am not a chem major, but the chem that I have taken suggests freezing these parts is not going to increase their strength much, if any, above heat treating alone. That site gives a lot of market hype, but their true info content is 0. They partially quote the National Bureau of Standards in a statement that says heat treating steel helps form a stronger lattice, but nowhere in this quote does the NBS say anything about the benifits of further cooling the heat treated steel. Then the site goes on, and I quote:
Additional changes over what? They do not specify. You are supposed to make the "obivous" connection to "over heat treated steel", but anyone that is even the slightest bit skeptical can see through it.
Next you provide a list of teams from their website that "use" this process. What you do not tell us is how many of those teams actually pay for this process and how many get it as part of a sponsorship deal. Anyone running a race team knows that the conpanies that sponsor you give you the cash you need to win. Duh. So if some company comes along and says "We want to sponsor your team as long as you let us do X to your engine parts and you say good things about our product." The team manager then says to himself "We get extra money from a company that wants to do X to our engine parts. I don't konw if it will help, but I know it won't hurt." The answer is, of course, YES. If I was running a race team and some company told me they wanted to dip my pistons in donkey piss before I installed them and I knew it wouldn't hurt anything, I'd let them do what ever they wanted for that sponsor money.
Last you claim personal experience. Have you used parts that were only heat treated as opposed to heat treated and then frozen and had the heat treated parts fail where the forzen parts did not? Keep in mind that you cannot say that freezing works better than just heat treating unless you have experienced this more than once with the exact same parts. Otherwise it would be attributed to a mis-cast or other unfortunate error. I want scientific proof, not second reguritation of hyped up market mumbo jumbo.
Thank you, please drive through.
Precipitation of eta Carbide: In a study performed at the Jassy Institute in Romania, researchers used a scanning electron microscope with a microscopic particle counter to evaluate additional changes in the structure of cryogenically treated steel.
Additional changes over what? They do not specify. You are supposed to make the "obivous" connection to "over heat treated steel", but anyone that is even the slightest bit skeptical can see through it.
Next you provide a list of teams from their website that "use" this process. What you do not tell us is how many of those teams actually pay for this process and how many get it as part of a sponsorship deal. Anyone running a race team knows that the conpanies that sponsor you give you the cash you need to win. Duh. So if some company comes along and says "We want to sponsor your team as long as you let us do X to your engine parts and you say good things about our product." The team manager then says to himself "We get extra money from a company that wants to do X to our engine parts. I don't konw if it will help, but I know it won't hurt." The answer is, of course, YES. If I was running a race team and some company told me they wanted to dip my pistons in donkey piss before I installed them and I knew it wouldn't hurt anything, I'd let them do what ever they wanted for that sponsor money.
Last you claim personal experience. Have you used parts that were only heat treated as opposed to heat treated and then frozen and had the heat treated parts fail where the forzen parts did not? Keep in mind that you cannot say that freezing works better than just heat treating unless you have experienced this more than once with the exact same parts. Otherwise it would be attributed to a mis-cast or other unfortunate error. I want scientific proof, not second reguritation of hyped up market mumbo jumbo.
Thank you, please drive through.