Ford Focus Hit by New Quality Glitch

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my sisters focus totally sucks. it looks like a tall skinny shitty car. a stretched out toyota echo. sad to say even with the bigger engine, its as fast as one also.

its been in the shop 3 times... 02 focus with like 15k on it.

synchro problems
ignition problems
intermittent radio (cut out for hours at a time)
ebrake cables loosening up

i mean wtf? 7k... no wonder its so fuckin cheap. good thing they slapped a warranty for 30k miles on it, the car needs it. my 93 mirage when it was stock was faster.

doesnt this bitch qualify for a lemon law or something? :unsure: :roll:
 
Quality is Job 1. Yeah right, anyone who believes that shit deserves nothing less than a size 14 up the ass.

Ford has had the most recalls in world history. Fact.


-> Steve
 
Originally posted by Celerity@Nov 20 2003, 10:38 PM
Quality is Job 1. Yeah right, anyone who believes that shit deserves nothing less than a size 14 up the ass.

Ford has had the most recalls in world history. Fact.


-> Steve
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That's quite funny because you know it is one of the oldest car companies in the world, right?

Fact. ;)
 
Originally posted by Slammed90Lude@Nov 20 2003, 11:24 PM
yeah you're right........You would think they might have figured out how to make a decent automobile by now.......But no
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You can't blame the whole car on a defect on a single product.

My timing belt broke, do you blame AC Delco? NO. You blame Ford.

My starter died, do you blame (that company, can't remember it off the top of my head)? NO. Again, you blame Ford.

Ford doesn't make all the components you put on the car to make it run. Sure it makes Ford Look bad when shit breaks, but Ford isn't necessarily to blame for shit like that.

Some cars are blessed with good luck and others are plagued with problems, I know of Escorts that have 200k miles on them and run fine...others don't run at all with 70k miles on them. For one, it's about customer neglect, oh yeah your friend had a 15k Focus and shit kept breaking. That has nothing to do with natural causes like moisture getting into electrical circuits or the transmission being beat on...no it's only FORDs problem for building such a big pile of shit. :roll:

Not every damn car is 100% perfect. Get over it guys...even Honda's have problems. My door locks stopped working and my radio doesn't work right...do you see me blaming Honda? Well, yes, the radio is shitty and it does say HONDA on it... but the locks, nah that's some other company that makes power actuators for Honda.
 
I'm not surprised that there is another Ford recall.

sleepergtx- You raise some good points. And all car manufacturers have had recalls, not all were well publicized. But in general among my friends, Hondas seem to last forever, like mine. And then recently, my friend's 2000 Dodge Grand Caravan threw a bearing at 52,000 miles. Naturally, my confidence is with Hondas and Acuras. I had no hesitation in calling up the seller of my GS-R last week. I knew that the car would be fine to buy.
 
Originally posted by 94RedSiGal@Nov 21 2003, 12:12 AM
I'm not surprised that there is another Ford recall.

sleepergtx- You raise some good points. And all car manufacturers have had recalls, not all were well publicized. But in general among my friends, Hondas seem to last forever, like mine. And then recently, my friend's 2000 Dodge Grand Caravan threw a bearing at 52,000 miles. Naturally, my confidence is with Hondas and Acuras. I had no hesitation in calling up the seller of my GS-R last week. I knew that the car would be fine to buy.
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im pretty sure ford supplied all the parts that went wrong for my sis' car...
 
Ford is a remarkably new company. Oldsmobile, Chevrolet and others in America have out-lasted it. Although the clock has stopped ticking on oldsmobubble.

Ford only made the first popular car. A cheap car that everyone could afford. It's like if someone started selling airplanes for $14,000. Sure, you could get one - But why.


That's like buying "The cheapest gun".

-> Steve

Also, as far as blaming parts for notoriety - How about Ford's blame claim on Firestone for the tires? Do you know that after the whole tire debacle was resolved, Ford got it's Millions and drove Firestone out of business, That Ford recalled ALL of it's Expeditions and Explorers for axle troubles ?

And yet, the tires are to blame. Ford was also the first US car company to move it's operations to Mexico to exploit those locals. At the same time, they bragged about reduced pricing across the board. This won them acclaim.

It's a design flaw. When Toyota's 7MGE engines developed head gasket problems, no one blamed FelPro (Factory suppliers of gaskets for Toyota). They blamed Toyota. It was a design flaw with the motor - The 2.8 5MGE ran like a clock. The 3.0 2JZGE ran fine.

There is a such thing as quality control - Which I wouldn't pick on Ford so much if it wasn't their fucking motto.
 
Originally posted by Green92HatchDX@Nov 21 2003, 02:12 AM
:lol: :lol: has you new ford driven you into the ground lately?
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Ford Fun

1. Fords Only Roll Downhill
2. Found On Road Dead
3. Fucken Old Rebuilt Dodge
4. Fix Or Replace Daily

Or, as my engines teacher says...."I swear, you are all wrong. It really means "First On Racing Day"
 
Originally posted by Celerity@Nov 21 2003, 02:01 AM
Ford is a remarkably new company. Oldsmobile, Chevrolet and others in America have out-lasted it. Although the clock has stopped ticking on oldsmobubble.

Ford only made the first popular car. A cheap car that everyone could afford. It's like if someone started selling airplanes for $14,000. Sure, you could get one - But why.


That's like buying "The cheapest gun".

-> Steve

Also, as far as blaming parts for notoriety - How about Ford's blame claim on Firestone for the tires? Do you know that after the whole tire debacle was resolved, Ford got it's Millions and drove Firestone out of business, That Ford recalled ALL of it's Expeditions and Explorers for axle troubles ?

And yet, the tires are to blame. Ford was also the first US car company to move it's operations to Mexico to exploit those locals. At the same time, they bragged about reduced pricing across the board. This won them acclaim.

It's a design flaw. When Toyota's 7MGE engines developed head gasket problems, no one blamed FelPro (Factory suppliers of gaskets for Toyota). They blamed Toyota. It was a design flaw with the motor - The 2.8 5MGE ran like a clock. The 3.0 2JZGE ran fine.

There is a such thing as quality control - Which I wouldn't pick on Ford so much if it wasn't their fucking motto.
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Ford is 100 years old. Oldsmobile is the only company to date back to the early 1900s, besides Ford.

Ford didn't blame Firestone, Firestone swallowed the pride and took on the blame themselves, but people still co-blamed Ford (go figure) for the problems. Apparently the axles weren't that big of a problem, I don't remember anything about it. :unsure:

Ford is not the first to move to Mexico. Parts of GM have moved, and Fbodies were built in Canada.

Toyota had a design flaw? no fucking way. You NEVER hear of stuff like that. That's my whole point. Everyone singles out Ford because it's all over the news first and foremost. Also, since you seem to have a brain, (no that's not sarcasm, I'm complimenting you) you should be the first to realize that it's not the car manufacturers problems for each and every piece and part that goes wrong. You try producing 250k cars a year without one having some sort of flaw in a product you bought on good faith. If you want to talk about Quality Control, Go to the company that made the part that failed, and blame THEIR engineers for that...after all, THEY produced the flawed piece. See my point?
 
BAH!! screw all of you all!! i OWN a Ford!! sure i have had it only a week but i really like it. i have also owned 4 other Fords and not one of them gave me any trouble at all. i sold em to "try" a Honda, like Hondas...hell i had 2 of em and now i am going back to my roots because frankly, the Honda scene is boring and you see the same shit on every Honda out there. i could rant forever but i dont feel like it but i like my FORD!!
 
Originally posted by TrailorParkPimp@Nov 21 2003, 10:25 PM
BAH!! screw all of you all!! i OWN a Ford!! sure i have had it only a week but i really like it. i have also owned 4 other Fords and not one of them gave me any trouble at all. i sold em to "try" a Honda, like Hondas...hell i had 2 of em and now i am going back to my roots because frankly, the Honda scene is boring and you see the same shit on every Honda out there. i could rant forever but i dont feel like it but i like my FORD!!
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my ex girl and my sister (before she got her *shudder* fukkus) both owned ford escorts, sedan and hatchback respectively. they both sucked ass. the exs' had so many tranny problems it was hard to count, and the sisters' hardly ran correctly.... i know others with many escort problems... :lol: i guess it just carries its way down the product line...
 
Were they both auto trannies? those are prone to problems if beat on and abused...otherwise, like I said, I know of Escorts with close to 200k miles on them running strong with no signs of dying.
 
Originally posted by sleepergtx@Nov 22 2003, 02:49 AM
Were they both auto trannies? those are prone to problems if beat on and abused...otherwise, like I said, I know of Escorts with close to 200k miles on them running strong with no signs of dying.
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the sedan was a 5 speed, with a pretty clean tranny... the hatch was the auto... 70k miles i believe.
 
Originally posted by Green92HatchDX+Nov 22 2003, 02:54 AM-->
Green92HatchDX @ Nov 22 2003 said:
sleepergtx
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Green92HatchDX @ Nov 22 2003 said:
@Nov 22 2003, 02:49 AM
Were they both auto trannies? those are prone to problems if beat on and abused...otherwise, like I said, I know of Escorts with close to 200k miles on them running strong with no signs of dying.
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the sedan was a 5 speed, with a pretty clean tranny... the hatch was the auto... 70k miles i believe.
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No offense to your sister, but did she/someone take care of it? 70k miles is quite low for it to be having any problems. Tune ups, timing belt changes, oil changes all on schedule? Was it revved out when cold? let it warm up too long? there's a million variables why something starts to act up, it's simply not fair to the car or to the company to blame it for problems when it's (possibly) neglected. Know what I mean?


Escorts are notorious for getting neglected. Mainly because they're just cheap, dispensible pieces of dime-a-dozen garbage to the general public. :angry:
 
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