Hondata or No Hondata
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This discussion is funny. 
Let's face it - hondata and uberdata are aimed at different "markets." Hondata, by making their datalogging and ROM editor an option as opposed to an integral part of all systems, pitches itself at professional tuners that want to tune cars. The reason for the existence of the S100 system was that an informal survey of hondata users found that most people ran either base tunes included with the system or the final tune done by their tuner with no modifications. It didn't make sense to include or even promote options that people never used... Bottom line: Hondata is economically sound as a means for professional tuners that already have equipment like widebands, EGTs, dynos, etc. at their disposal to produce consistent and quality work for people who do not have a desire to retune their car. Instead of buying tuning tools, most people pay a tuner for their labor.
Uberdata, on the other hand, is "marketed" to those that don't want to pay someone else to do their car, but would rather tune it themselves. Datalogging and the ability to modify tunes is a key part of the software. Instead of paying for software and a tuner's time, Uberdata users pay for tools and dyno time.
If you want to learn to tune yourself, there is a much smaller "buy-in" involved to have proper tools with Uberdata. If you'd rather deal with tuning as a "service" then you'll probably find more experienced Hondata tuners. It's all about what you want to spend time on versus what you'd rather spend money on.
Be grateful you have choices. Make good ones.
Let's face it - hondata and uberdata are aimed at different "markets." Hondata, by making their datalogging and ROM editor an option as opposed to an integral part of all systems, pitches itself at professional tuners that want to tune cars. The reason for the existence of the S100 system was that an informal survey of hondata users found that most people ran either base tunes included with the system or the final tune done by their tuner with no modifications. It didn't make sense to include or even promote options that people never used... Bottom line: Hondata is economically sound as a means for professional tuners that already have equipment like widebands, EGTs, dynos, etc. at their disposal to produce consistent and quality work for people who do not have a desire to retune their car. Instead of buying tuning tools, most people pay a tuner for their labor.
Uberdata, on the other hand, is "marketed" to those that don't want to pay someone else to do their car, but would rather tune it themselves. Datalogging and the ability to modify tunes is a key part of the software. Instead of paying for software and a tuner's time, Uberdata users pay for tools and dyno time.
If you want to learn to tune yourself, there is a much smaller "buy-in" involved to have proper tools with Uberdata. If you'd rather deal with tuning as a "service" then you'll probably find more experienced Hondata tuners. It's all about what you want to spend time on versus what you'd rather spend money on.
Be grateful you have choices. Make good ones.
integraslut78
Stylus DJ Extraordinaire
Thanks Radnulb that was the best explaination I have heard yet. This Uberdata is making more sense to me.
sohcslammer
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Originally posted by radnulb@Nov 24 2004, 03:01 PM
This discussion is funny.
Let's face it - hondata and uberdata are aimed at different "markets." Hondata, by making their datalogging and ROM editor an option as opposed to an integral part of all systems, pitches itself at professional tuners that want to tune cars. The reason for the existence of the S100 system was that an informal survey of hondata users found that most people ran either base tunes included with the system or the final tune done by their tuner with no modifications. It didn't make sense to include or even promote options that people never used... Bottom line: Hondata is economically sound as a means for professional tuners that already have equipment like widebands, EGTs, dynos, etc. at their disposal to produce consistent and quality work for people who do not have a desire to retune their car. Instead of buying tuning tools, most people pay a tuner for their labor.
Uberdata, on the other hand, is "marketed" to those that don't want to pay someone else to do their car, but would rather tune it themselves. Datalogging and the ability to modify tunes is a key part of the software. Instead of paying for software and a tuner's time, Uberdata users pay for tools and dyno time.
If you want to learn to tune yourself, there is a much smaller "buy-in" involved to have proper tools with Uberdata. If you'd rather deal with tuning as a "service" then you'll probably find more experienced Hondata tuners. It's all about what you want to spend time on versus what you'd rather spend money on.
Be grateful you have choices. Make good ones.
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That was very helpfull and informative. And I agree with every word. Thanx rad-newbie...
j/k man...
