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endlesszeal
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if you can click "yes" and change your oil, installing a SATA card and drive is easy-cake. actually, if your hard drive + motherboard is straight SATA, you just plug it in.
which leads me to my install advice; on the back of the drive you order, there is a little jumper pin. move it to either MS (master) or CS (cable select). I suggest MS because you're probably replacing a drive on its own IDE channel.
which leads me to my install advice; on the back of the drive you order, there is a little jumper pin. move it to either MS (master) or CS (cable select). I suggest MS because you're probably replacing a drive on its own IDE channel.
I agree with you to an extent- but these days, with any purchase computer related, you really can't future proof ANYTHING. Might as well just get what's good when you need it.
Yep - I"ve had too many hardware incompatibility issues with controller cards - generally interrupt conflict problems.I agree with you to an extent- but these days, with any purchase computer related, you really can't future proof ANYTHING. Might as well just get what's good when you need it.
Replacing the IDE drive, for a novice is the easy way to go.
endlesszeal
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yeah that's why i had the phrase in quotations . "future proofing" computers is like trying to stop the chinese from having babies; it aint gonna happen. and i hate it when they call it "bleeding edge;" its more like "bleeding money."
but my main point was that getting a SATA controller and drive would've possibly increased performance and definitely more GB/$.
the IDE drive listed has a puny 8mb of cache where as most current SATA drives have 32mb and many drives are hoovering right next to the 1st gen WD Raptors; with the WD Caviar Black tying or exceeding it.
oh well, hes already bought it and i hope the install goes smoothly. =)
. "future proofing" computers is like trying to stop the chinese from having babies; it aint gonna happen. and i hate it when they call it "bleeding edge;" its more like "bleeding money."but my main point was that getting a SATA controller and drive would've possibly increased performance and definitely more GB/$.
the IDE drive listed has a puny 8mb of cache where as most current SATA drives have 32mb and many drives are hoovering right next to the 1st gen WD Raptors; with the WD Caviar Black tying or exceeding it.
oh well, hes already bought it and i hope the install goes smoothly. =)
For an experienced builder a controller card would have made sense - for a novice, no - too many things can go wrong.yeah that's why i had the phrase in quotations
but my main point was that getting a SATA controller and drive would've possibly increased performance and definitely more GB/$.
the IDE drive listed has a puny 8mb of cache where as most current SATA drives have 32mb and many drives are hoovering right next to the 1st gen WD Raptors; with the WD Caviar Black tying or exceeding it.
oh well, hes already bought it and i hope the install goes smoothly. =)
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Outstanding!got it installed, windows reinstalled and the comp setup how i had it before.. no difference
Just ordered two hard drives myself today... 7200rpm Seagate 2.5" laptop drives to go into a desktop computer in RAID 0. Makes tons of sense eh?
2x 80GB Intel SSDs cost more than this entire system...
endlesszeal
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or get two wd blacks and raid 0. would rape anything outside of ssd.
probably got a good deal on those seagates anyway -^_-.
@GSRCRX :it would be fun trying to explain to my gf why i need a 2200+ computer tower when i only facebook and watch videos.
anyway, i would really love to get my hands on some sandforce drives but i cant justify spending so much money on what, like 15 sec faster boot times (considering my usage).
probably got a good deal on those seagates anyway -^_-.
@GSRCRX :it would be fun trying to explain to my gf why i need a 2200+ computer tower when i only facebook and watch videos.
anyway, i would really love to get my hands on some sandforce drives but i cant justify spending so much money on what, like 15 sec faster boot times (considering my usage).
I'm in the same range- but the drives I ordered are for a portable box, not my main system. I'd spend the cash on SSDs for the main system, or at least stripe two really fast desktop drives (which I have).
The Seagates were $35 apiece new. I guess I'll create a thread while I build this thing tonight.
blacks in raid 0 are good, but they have a timeout problem that causes the raid to fail unexpectedly (the drives dont fail). this can be fixed however with modding the firmware. just thought it was worth noting. blacks are not rated for RAID, it would be better to just use some of their RE model drives for raid configs.
ive actually been thinking about picking up a 3rd intel SSD for a 3x raid0 i could use the space, my raid volume is about 70% full with just games and programs.
ive actually been thinking about picking up a 3rd intel SSD for a 3x raid0
i could use the space, my raid volume is about 70% full with just games and programs.
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endlesszeal
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blacks in raid 0 are good, but they have a timeout problem that causes the raid to fail unexpectedly (the drives dont fail). this can be fixed however with modding the firmware. just thought it was worth noting. blacks are not rated for RAID, it would be better to just use some of their RE model drives for raid configs.
ive actually been thinking about picking up a 3rd intel SSD for a 3x raid0
mm did not know that about the blacks. thanks for the info. but what a bunch of shit that someone has to use modded firmware to get something to "work right." i guess thats what the RE line is for....
and i wonder, would 3 intel ssd in raid 0 break the SATA 3.0 barrier? the sandforce (crucial c300) did but i forgot if it was in raid and if it was read or write.
anyway, glad to hear everything went well with the dude.
ps love the snappiness of a fresh windows install.
See, in the old days I just assigned each SCSI drive a different ID and went to town. No conflicts, no weird firmware issues....
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