nickelback repeat themselves

[bigdaddyIII]

That band with the singer who looks like Jesus on crack-Nickelback, has
songs that sound all alike (gasp). Listen to this side by side
comparison of "How You Remind Me" and "Someday":
nickelback's idea of originality
....and the record industry wonders why people don't buy their recycled
shit anymore.

 

[asmallsol]

lol, thats kinda funny. Chorus's are at the exact same point, switch tone at the same point.

However, at one point "how you remind me" cuts out, and it sounds like they sped up "someday"

 

[DarkHand]

I read about this a few days ago and decided to mix it myself.

Raise 'Someday' by a semitone and they do indeed match perfectly. The speeding up is just a result of someone not being very good at matching the two songs up.

The songs aren't the same length though, some editing was done to get them to end at the same time.

But yes, they do sound way too sililar.

What I want to do now is find instrumental and acapella versions of those two songs, and swap the vocals around without mixing the music... It'd sound pretty interesting.

 

[Hatchbacks Anonymous]

Doesnt suprise me because they've always sucked IMO.

 

[Celerity]

All of SKA and Punk is based on this practice.

-> Steve

I love Techno, and it's nothing but repetetive.

 

[MaaseyRacer]

yeah nickleback is a bunch of deusches, if i was at their concert I would for sure throw rocks.

 

[bigdaddyIII]

Originally posted by Celerity@Apr 9 2004, 01:21 PM
All of SKA and Punk is based on this practice.

-> Steve

I love Techno, and it's nothing but repetetive.

yes, but ska and punk in fact rock. i like some techno, but its gotta really be good shit. like elements by danny teniglia(sp). that is some sick shit. nickelback, on the other hand, blow goats for quarters.

 

[Havok]

Originally posted by Celerity@Apr 9 2004, 01:21 PM
All of SKA and Punk is based on this practice.

-> Steve

I love Techno, and it's nothing but repetetive.

Nah, your thinking of country....all old country sounds the same, all new country (within 10 years) sounds the same. Don't get me started on techo ,trance, rave, etc.

 

[BlackFrog]

Originally posted by Blanco@Apr 9 2004, 03:37 PM
It's called writting a rock song. A-B-A-C-B-A, throw some vocals over it and you've got a song.

thats what i was gonna say. song writers just use the same patterns because somebody probably did some study and found certain musical patterns to be more appealing to the ear, so thats what they do. im sure there are similarities with others artists music as well, though those 2 songs played over each other are very, very similar.

 

[TurboMirage]

thats crazy alike!

 

[bigdaddyIII]

Originally posted by Blanco@Apr 9 2004, 03:37 PM
It's called writting a rock song. A-B-A-C-B-A, throw some vocals over it and you've got a song. It's how hit songs have been written for 50 years. Personally, I think Nickleback is a great band. Chad Kroeger writes very self expressive lyrics and Ryan Vikedale has one of the best feels of any hard rock drummer, mixing up his traditional jazz background with the first rock band he's ever played with. I also have a tremendous amount of respect for what they've accomplished as a pop/hard rock band, knowing exactly what it takes to acheive that level.

no, its called writing the same damn song over and over! the only rock band allowed to do that is ac/dc - everyone else sux at it. first of all, every song writer write self expressive lyrics. its self expression. second, vikedale sux ass. he's doing the same thing everyone's been doing for the last five years, and theres no innovation. in my band, we have a practice of not writing the same thing over and over. we like to keep things different. otherwise, you can sell the single and say its a whole bunch of songs. you wanna hear a really good drummer? listen to chris adler, tomas haake, mitch mitchell, ginger baker, igor cavalera, or any number of drum corps drummers. but radio rock horse shit gets no respect from me, knowing exactly how little it takes to acheive that level. just thinking for myself here. sorry.

 

[TurboMirage]

hate to say it but repetitiveness sells. they cant suck too bad, with all the millions they have made and all the radio time they get.

personally, i like listening to nickelback. if something is enjoyable, it doesnt bother me if it turns out to be a bit repetitive.

 

[bigdaddyIII]

it just pisses me off that the industry is telling people what to like. it should be the other way around. people should be setting the benchmark.

 

[TurboMirage]

if you dont like it, dont listen to it.

never stopped anyone else.

 

[E_SolSi]

theres lots of shit i dont llike


so................................................................................


i dont listen to it

 

[94accordex]

Originally posted by bigdaddyIII+Apr 9 2004, 07:17 PM-->

Blanco

@Apr 9 2004, 03:37 PM
It's called writting a rock song. A-B-A-C-B-A, throw some vocals over it and you've got a song. It's how hit songs have been written for 50 years. Personally, I think Nickleback is a great band. Chad Kroeger writes very self expressive lyrics and Ryan Vikedale has one of the best feels of any hard rock drummer, mixing up his traditional jazz background with the first rock band he's ever played with. I also have a tremendous amount of respect for what they've accomplished as a pop/hard rock band, knowing exactly what it takes to acheive that level.

no, its called writing the same damn song over and over! the only rock band allowed to do that is ac/dc - everyone else sux at it. first of all, every song writer write self expressive lyrics. its self expression. second, vikedale sux ass. he's doing the same thing everyone's been doing for the last five years, and theres no innovation. in my band, we have a practice of not writing the same thing over and over. we like to keep things different. otherwise, you can sell the single and say its a whole bunch of songs. you wanna hear a really good drummer? listen to chris adler, tomas haake, mitch mitchell, ginger baker, igor cavalera, or any number of drum corps drummers. but radio rock horse shit gets no respect from me, knowing exactly how little it takes to acheive that level. just thinking for myself here. sorry.

no, its called writing the same damn song over and over! the only rock band allowed to do that is ac/dc - everyone else sux at it. first of all, every song writer write self expressive lyrics. its self expression. second, vikedale sux ass. he's doing the same thing everyone's been doing for the last five years, and theres no innovation. in my band, we have a practice of not writing the same thing over and over. we like to keep things different. otherwise, you can sell the single and say its a whole bunch of songs. you wanna hear a really good drummer? listen to chris adler, tomas haake, mitch mitchell, ginger baker, igor cavalera, or any number of drum corps drummers. but radio rock horse shit gets no respect from me, knowing exactly how little it takes to acheive that level. just thinking for myself here. sorry.

Ok...no offense here dude, but if your style of "mixing it up" is so much better than what Nickelback is doing, then how come Nickelback is touring the U.S. and the world, making millions of dollars, and you still can't afford to swap a Z6 into your 12-year old Civic? Just something to think about...Nickelback must be doing something right, eh?!?

 

[94accordex]

Sorry for the unnecessary quoting above...all I meant to quote was the bottom one...

 

[tab]

Originally posted by bigdaddyIII@Apr 9 2004, 07:17 PM
he's doing the same thing everyone's been doing for the last five years, and theres no innovation. in my band, we have a practice of not writing the same thing over and over. we like to keep things different. otherwise, you can sell the single and say its a whole bunch of songs.

Milk sells. Candy sells. Hondas, yep, they sell.

Your band is selling anger. Sing a song about Nickelback sucking, while expressing yourself. Don't like it, don't listen. I know several band members, and I make them listen to stupid shit, just because it might spark an idea. Listen to the Big Band song on the Xanadu soundtrack. 20's big band mixed with 80's butt rock. I think it's awesome, and innovative, but I won't jam it at a party. Some things will always be popular.

I think I'll put that mix song on a CD, thanks.

 

[jamesA]

Um....lol well 90% of the bands out there will produce similiar sounding songs, since they use the same chords with the same lead singer.

If you listen to Green Day a lot they will start to sound alike, same with blink 182 and a ton of other punk, ska and even rock bands.

 

[bigdaddyIII]

Originally posted by 94accordex+Apr 10 2004, 12:32 PM-->

Originally posted by bigdaddyIII@Apr 9 2004, 07:17 PM
Blanco

@Apr 9 2004, 03:37 PM
It's called writting a rock song.  A-B-A-C-B-A, throw some vocals over it and you've got a song.  It's how hit songs have been written for 50 years.  Personally, I think Nickleback is a great band.  Chad Kroeger writes very self expressive lyrics and Ryan Vikedale has one of the best feels of any hard rock drummer, mixing up his traditional jazz background with the first rock band he's ever played with.  I also have a tremendous amount of respect for what they've accomplished as a pop/hard rock band, knowing exactly what it takes to acheive that level.

no, its called writing the same damn song over and over! the only rock band allowed to do that is ac/dc - everyone else sux at it. first of all, every song writer write self expressive lyrics. its self expression. second, vikedale sux ass. he's doing the same thing everyone's been doing for the last five years, and theres no innovation. in my band, we have a practice of not writing the same thing over and over. we like to keep things different. otherwise, you can sell the single and say its a whole bunch of songs. you wanna hear a really good drummer? listen to chris adler, tomas haake, mitch mitchell, ginger baker, igor cavalera, or any number of drum corps drummers. but radio rock horse shit gets no respect from me, knowing exactly how little it takes to acheive that level. just thinking for myself here. sorry.

no, its called writing the same damn song over and over! the only rock band allowed to do that is ac/dc - everyone else sux at it. first of all, every song writer write self expressive lyrics. its self expression. second, vikedale sux ass. he's doing the same thing everyone's been doing for the last five years, and theres no innovation. in my band, we have a practice of not writing the same thing over and over. we like to keep things different. otherwise, you can sell the single and say its a whole bunch of songs. you wanna hear a really good drummer? listen to chris adler, tomas haake, mitch mitchell, ginger baker, igor cavalera, or any number of drum corps drummers. but radio rock horse shit gets no respect from me, knowing exactly how little it takes to acheive that level. just thinking for myself here. sorry.

Ok...no offense here dude, but if your style of "mixing it up" is so much better than what Nickelback is doing, then how come Nickelback is touring the U.S. and the world, making millions of dollars, and you still can't afford to swap a Z6 into your 12-year old Civic? Just something to think about...Nickelback must be doing something right, eh?!?

very good question. the start of this problem is the fact that the music industry tells people what to like. then the people, like good consumers, do what theyre told, and complacency sets in. then the music industry says, 'like nickelback' and they do. then nickelback gets thrust on a world tour, giving the world their shitty rendition of what music sounds like. and all these programmed idiots buy the album, the merch, and anything else the record company wants to pump down their throat. id like to not listen to it....trust me i would. but my drive to work and home is just too short to throw in a cd, and just long enough to listen to the radio. so, these sons a bitches are escorted into my car by some disc jockey who gets paid to tell you he likes these guys. the reason i cant afford to swap a z6 into my busted ass 12 year old civic is because i work for a living. this is mainly because the local music scene refuses to support its talent. we have a show tonight, and we are the headliner. so we take 60% of the door. we have opened for national acts, and we have far more talent than the previously mentioned band. the only thing they did right was get in debt trying to afford the best representation they could get. also, when all's said and done, that big label contract will get them in debt so far, they probably wont even have the busted ass civic, let alone the z6. read about it, big label contracts are giant loans, and you need to watch out for that shit.