Originally posted by Import Builders@Jun 17 2004, 01:58 AM
I see what your saying, but you have to step back and look at what is "actually says" It says the state can't impose a religion.
So I ask you again, what religion does the state impose? There is NO state religion, thus the constitution is not violated. End of story.
Your "implying" that "a religion" means christianity. Thats wrong. It does not. Simply believing in a higher power does not constitute a 'religion'. Its non-specific.
there is no religion like that. each religion is different, unique and purposefull in its regard. The state does not impose ANY 1 religion on anyone.
So again, when you see that point, youll understand why its not a violation of the constitution. it would HAVE TO FORCE IT ON YOU. IT DOESN'T.
If you cannot name 1 religion that is imposed on you, your right are OBVIOUSLY not violated. So you have no argument, you just hate religion and want to see it gone. I can understand that, people hate GOD, whether he exists or not!
Can we at least agree on that? Just saying it acknowledges a higher power is not a singled out religion.
Jefferson believed in a "higher" power, that was my point. He did not believe in say, Christianity, which was your point. You actually made my point stronger with your most excellent researched post.
until you can go to school and say "Dang, you know what, the state is imposing Christianity on me, my rights are violated. You have no argument. they are not imposing anything, on anyone specific to any 1 religion, which is what the constitution says they can't do.
And on top of that, you can go outside and hear none of it, adding 2 reasons why they are not violating your rights.
Bottom line, the pledge is constitutional. Read the above.
Sorry, I didn't like my post, I thought it was too agressive. Sorry. I am trying to give you respect.
Sorry if it doesn;t come off that way.
Sincerely,
Jeff