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Discussion in 'General Tech and Maintenance' started by bakerderek0, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. bakerderek0

    bakerderek0 Up a Creek...

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    I found this when I was checking out my valve train:

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    Shot with HTC Touch Diamond P3700 at 2010-04-06

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    Shot with HTC Touch Diamond P3700 at 2010-04-06

    As you can see, both cams are worn, more severe is the intake cam. Both cams have a small amount of movement when seated in the journals. I think this maybe my power loss issue. My car has no power at all. It has a hard time backing up the slope on my driveway and just driving up the street, thats with the ignition timing fully advanced, it doesn't have any power unless I advance the timing. Before you ask, here are the steps I've taken to fix the problem:

    New dizzy cap & rotor, spark plugs & wires. throttle body cleaning. The idle also surge( my iacv is good, no FITV, TPS is good, No vacuum leaks).

    Do you think these cams are my problem?
     
  2. ricksautomotive

    ricksautomotive honda dealer tech

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    have you tried putting a B16 distributor on it? why do you have the B18 dizzy? and the cam play should be there but only a couple thousandths pf an inch. not sure off the top of my head though how much. if you need used cams i have some though. 150 for them.
     
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    Magana559 The Warden

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    wow, who put them cams on and how many miles do they have?

    Also if aftermarket what brand? what valve springs?

    tell us some more
     
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    ricksautomotive honda dealer tech

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    damn bro LOL what do you see? i know you know engines. i seen your build i think. but whats this guy have? my crappy computer shows blurry stuff LOL sucks for me :D
     
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    bakerderek0 Up a Creek...

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    I'm not sure why this distributor is on here, I didn't get to build the car, I'm just the one who has to make the car run right! The only identification number on this dizzy is D3179, which is stamped on the back where the head meets. After searchs & more searchs, all I can find out is that it is from a 95 GSR. But, I do like the idea of trying a B16 Dizzy. I know they are different because it took forever to find the correct Cap.
     
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    bakerderek0 Up a Creek...

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    This is the decription of mods I got when I purchased the car:

    motor
    b16a1
    compressions raised 12-11.8
    type-r springs
    type-r motion assembly
    port n polished head
    3 angle valve job
    bored 20 over
    ctr [COLOR=#0072bc! important][COLOR=#0072bc! important]forged [COLOR=#0072bc! important]pistons[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]
    acl bearings
    ITR tranny
    b&m short shifter
    new bushings and gears
    gsr front boots
    cermaic gears
    Limited slip Differential
    gsr anti roll bars
    exedy stage 6 unsprung clutch
    ltw flywheel
    tananabe exhaust
    suspension
    ground control [COLOR=#0072bc! important][COLOR=#0072bc! important]coilovers[/COLOR][/COLOR]
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    So maybe it has ITR Springs. I don't see any obvious marking on the cams to identify. I've been trying to find a good pic of B16A2 cams so I can compare.
     
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    CAFROG Honda Minion VIP

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    CAFROG Honda Minion VIP

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    take pictures of the ends of the camshaft (at the dizzy and cam plug) so someone can tell you what they are
     
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    ricksautomotive honda dealer tech

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    try a differend dizzy that you know is good then since this guy says the one you have should work fine. maybe your dizzy is bad
     
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    bakerderek0 Up a Creek...

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    I've got a reman dizzy on the way from advance auto. I'll pick it up tomorrow. I ordered the dizzy for a 99 civic si. The plugs will be for a OBD2 harness, so I'll be rewiring those first. Upon inspection of my GSR dizzy, I found that the shaft does spin more easily than a new one does. No signs of red death or obvious damage, just easily spins.
     
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    bakerderek0 Up a Creek...

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    I have everything back together right now, just waiting on another dizzy. If it doesn't fix the problem, I'll take it apart for some more pics.
     
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    CAFROG Honda Minion VIP

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    Should have ordered a USDM 94-95 Del Sol VTEC dizzy..its OBD1 already.
     
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    bakerderek0 Up a Creek...

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    I was able to change the order. Thanks alot! That will save time.
     
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    make sure its the Del Sol VTEC....

    NOT the 'Del Sol S' or 'Del Sol Si'
     
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    I see chewed up cams, They look like most of the nitrate coating has been scared! USE MOLY ASSEMBLY LUBE WHEN INSTALLING CAMS.

    I seriously think the cams were ran dry or over torqued.

    Take pics of the Head and springs.
     
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    ricksautomotive honda dealer tech

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    sounds like some of the cams around here being used for door props might be better then huh? :D
     
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    Magana....you really think the pics express the cams being chewed up? I see some wear on them for sure but nothing looks terribly deep. If this is the case...then my CTR camshafts are tired and chewed up too....they have small surface scratches on the cam cap part of the camshafts too.

    Or are you saying the shining parts is the coating gone? Mine aren't shiny like that at all.
     
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    bakerderek0 Up a Creek...

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    Well, I got the new dizzy on and now it won't start and I'm getting a CEL 15. Which is "No ignition output signal - possible faulty igniter." All the plugs matched up fine with the OBD1 Dizzy I got. It is a reman from advanced... I just keep telling myself there's no way they'd sell me a bad dizzy. I've double checked the spark plug wires and taken the cap back off to check it, everything checks out. I'm stumped....again....
     
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    ummm that sucks dude. whats a code 15 on your set up? hell dude- check your PMs
     
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