I guess this is sort of my review on some supplements I gave a try after reading great reviews on them. I considered myself a fairly strong guy, flat bench I was doing 205 while I weighed a whopping 142 lbs. I was curling the 45-50 lb dumbbells and curling 70 on the curl bar. That's really all I paid attention to. Well anyway, I discovered alcohol and went completely downhill. After realizing that my poor eating and not so good lifestyle was making me completely unhappy with my body, I did a 180 like I tend to do with a lot of things. Got back in the gym and eating right. Well there's guys there, like always, that are just jacked. And I sit there and wonder why I never ended up looking anything close to that, besides the fact that I stopped going to the gym, which is definitely part of it. Anyway, I wasn't getting the strength back that I wanted. My chest wasn't swelling like it used to, and I started doing dumbbell presses more than flat bench, in which I was doing the 50's. That's probably where I'm measuring this the most, is my dumbbell press. I did some research on some supplements I had seen in GNC, Anabolic Halo (by Muscle Tech.) After reading great reviews, other than its horrid taste, and it is horrid, I came across that people had the most gains when it was stacked with Muscle Tech's naNO Vapor, commonly called the Valo stack. So I thought long and hard about it, and looked for anything that may conflict with the creatine I was also taking. Finally I went out and spent the bajillion dollars on the 2. This, being about 2 and a half weeks on my stack, has been an immense week. From doing the 50's, 3 sets of 10, I last night did the 75's, 3 sets of 10. I'm also curling 90 lbs, but I struggle with that a bit. I don't know why I'm putting this on here, because this is Honda Swap, not "lets listen to daveholiday waste our time." I don't know. I guess I just wanted to feel like a critic. And share my experience with someone since all my friends are lame and don't care about fitness. Any negative side effects? Both taste like shit, and I have noticed an ever so slight amount of acne on my back. Big deal. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mt/anabolichalo.html Bodybuilding.com - MuscleTech NaNO Vapor - Pre-Workout Explosion! On sale now!