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Uh Oh, Lesnar Is In Trouble

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by B16RacerN2NR, Nov 5, 2007.

  1. B16RacerN2NR

    B16RacerN2NR Working Hard VIP

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    Well ladies and gents, looks like Brock has a very decent opponent for his first fight. Although, I don't think this Frank Mir is the same one who was able to beat a Tim Silvia who was in/around his prime at the time. I think Mir is way too talented and experienced for Lesnar right now but I guess we'll soon find out.

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  2. totalburnout

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    When the hell did Mir get back on a UFC contract?

    When was talking about how he held the real belt, when Pride and UFC were having unifying fights and Dana more or less told him to screw himself.

    Mir is always on WEC commentating, now.

    For the record, Lesnar will handle him.
     
  3. B16RacerN2NR

    B16RacerN2NR Working Hard VIP

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    He's been back fighting for a little while now. He got his ass handed to him by Brandon Vera.

    I think Lesnar will hold his own but Frank Mir is no slouche. IMO, there is no real clear winner to choose.
     
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    serrilion In my own little world! VIP

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    Um how about a good fight with an awesome beatting like when Forest Griffen and Stephen Boner fought for the 1st time back in the day! :)
     
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    That wasn't a fight, that was a brawl.

    Although entertaining to watch, thats the sort of thing that ends careers.

    Don't get me wrong, I love when fighters let loose, but at the same time they should have a technical ability to defend themselves. On the same token, I don't like when they pussy foot and aren't aggressive.
     
  6. Capt. Orygun

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    sweet, just what brock wants

    Mir, and 95% of heavy's in the world don't fight with the speed Lesner has, certainly not with the speed and power combo like that

    somebody brought up a good point about lesner's chin, I almost forgot about this

    I give you, Brock being dropped on his head from 10 feet up, no knockout and you can't fake gravity

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  7. E_SolSi

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    jesus... will you just steal his underwear and make stew out of them already
     
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    That's not really a good example; since the rings are sort of hollow...and there are other wrestler's who've fell(or jumped), from higher without being knocked out. Only way to tell is when someone punches or kicks in the chin. If that never happens; well he just has an invincible chin.
     
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    no rings are mic-ed underneath to produce the slamming sounds but they are very hard and generally not very giving. Mankind has said more then once that the worst bump he ever took was through the hell in a hell onto the ring (has was thrown off the top throw an announce table and onto the floor earlier that night, which he said wasn't as bad)
     
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    Thing about those rings are; you can see them bounce when someone gets slammed. On the other hand; when someone gets slammed in MMA...the ground doesn't bounce as much and the slams are usually associated with one's own body weight+opponent's weight on their head.. I'm pretty sure a fist can do more damage too(which is probably why they don't really punch each other in wrestling).

    Like I stated before, only way to tell how strong his chin is is to wait for someone to punch him there. Until then, we really don't know how strong his chin is.
     
  12. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    I hate Frank Mir with a passion. From his commentating on WEC he seems to have no MMA knowledge whatsoever and he was never that good of a fighter. My favorite WEC comment, "He's on his back, there is next to nothing you can do from there."
     
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    Sometimes I dislike his commentary, but I can appreciate his technical analysis with my wrestling background.

    He's a big proponent of never giving up your back, but I feel there's an intelligent way with wrist control, when someone throws the legs in that you can give up your back in order to get a solid base, stand up and shake the person off.

    To give up your back and your neck is stupid, if you have one wrist or both wrists and you explosively stand up, lean forward and shake the guy out - its not such a bad move.
     
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    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    As a former wrestler I love nothing more than getting the back. Legs go in and if the neck isn't there then just start raining down blows. Any person with a good wrestling background will not be shaken off or even let someone stand for that matter.
     
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    Frank Mir Sucks. Lesner will beat him.
     
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    Lol reminds me of the commentator from "Dodgeball"

    "Yeah he wont be able to see very well with that blindfold on cotton"
     
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    Lol, clearly you didn't wrestle for long enough, then.

    Legs are easy to get out by standing up and shaking someone off your hips. Once their hips are off of yours, its so much easier to shake the person.

    To get legs out you can grab someone's foot, grab the outside of the bottom of the foot and pull it in, while digging your elbow into their leg. Basically its painful as hell and can break someone's ankle if you really crank on it.

    Also, what I said before hinges upon wrist control. You can't rain down blows if the person on the bottom has any wrist that you've draped over when going for a choke or when placing it on the mat and putting the legs in.

    If you leave someone up there to impose their will upon you its absolutely stupid because you're going to get hit or choked out, but its completely different if you have a wrist or both wrists - especially if you have a weak guard. Its just another way to get the fight back to its feet.

    I watched some ass clown on WEC try to submit someone the other day by doing a crucifix and then by doing a banana split.

    For a crucifix to happen, the guy had to lean over one of your shoulders and get his head under your arm - that should never happen.

    To get the banana split the guy had to go to the other guys legs and break his base a part. Had he just stood up when the guy was draped across his back, there would have been no way he could have had his legs separated and been rolled to his back.
    Basically I'll reiterate what I said before, giving up the back when you have wrist control isn't bad.

    And as a wrestler, you should like giving up your back because its in our nature to go straight to a base, rather than our back.
     
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    Ever notice that the more burnout talks, the more he looks like an ass?


    Just keep your mouth shut dude.

    Most of us have had enough of your bullshit comments and your inability to see blatant truth while it is skull-fucking your brains out.
     
  19. Capt. Orygun

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    Well I for one can't wait, we're all just a bunch of asshats arguing on teh interwebs, the truth will be known about Lesner in Jan and I'm banking on a massacre

    hey didn't you two guys make a bet about Lesner?
     
  20. Cashizslick

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    How? He is fighting a guy who sucks much more than he does.
     
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