Originally posted by New2TheCarScene+Jul 18 2005, 11:08 AM-->92b16vx@Jul 18 2005, 11:00 AM
But the US's retaliation to this is to force democracy and Christianity on a un-willing and un-wanting nation?
For the record, we are not forcing christianity on anyone, especially the middle east. As a matter of fact, we can not even mail christian religous materials, such as the little weeklys that they hand out, to troops over there. The only people allowed to carry them there are Chaplins. There is no mixing of christianity with the goods and services we are handing out over in the middle east....just for the record.
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This is a view point that many people take on, even if its ill founded. I'm the last person to defend religion, being non religious myself, other then I do believe that people should respect one anothers beliefs and that its disrespectful to speak ill of religion whether you're religious or not.
Will that said, I think that many think that this is a Christian dominant movement to take over the world when in truth the number of christians in the United States is dwindling. People act as if the entire US government is composed of greedy christians that are going to force their religion on others when its simply not true. You're not penalized by the government for not practicing christianity or for practicing another religion for that matter, I know because I've never been discriminated against by the government for not practicing a religion. Have mindless other people said things? Yes, but the government cannot control that. Fact is the government isn't pushing religion on anyone, any more so than the largest group of votes, the majority, wants it to. If you're the minority and don't like the way that the majority if voting, well thats just too bad because thats how democracy works. Its no ones fault that the masses want one thing or another and you may not agree with it. Organize, rally, and gain support and then perhaps you can get your way. Otherwise you have nothing to complain about.
Also for the record, the nation isn't unwilling and unwanting. A small group of people that runs the nation is unwilling and unwanting. They don't want to lose their power. What do the people want? Well I don't think that most there are educated enough over there to know what the hell they want. They're used to being controlled from birth, most aren't free thinkers.
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man.................no offence, but you guys are DEEP into it.
You say that the USA is not forcing Christianity on it's non-christian opponents? Dude, look at your $1 bill.......look at your country's slogan...."In God we Trust" ring a bell????.... wether you are religious in nature or not, no matter your personal views, if you fight for the USA, you in fact, ARE forcing Christianity, and the Western Democratic way of life on those who oppose. It's a simple fact, period. This is not a war of the individual...you fight for a collective government, therefore you fight for a collective ideal, the collective US religion is Christianity, therefore you fight it's purpose wether you realize it or not. When your founders came to North America in the first place, they did the same thing to the natives, and look at them now, same shit today.
BUT, before I dig myself a HUGE hole here, and being one of the only Canadians on this board, I'm going to just stop. BIG touchy topic here, and I dont want to burn any bridges..... I respect you guys too much to get into a stupid fight where I'm grossly outnumbered.