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Car is a 1992 Civic Si that I have owned since '96 Had stock D16Z6, B18B1, B16A w/CTR cams, and now I am K-swapping. 2010 Put stock stuff back on and parted that stuff out on CL and H-T. As many know....it can be a ...

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Old 07-22-2011, 08:56 PM   #1
 
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Car is a 1992 Civic Si that I have owned since '96
Had stock D16Z6, B18B1, B16A w/CTR cams, and now I am K-swapping.
2010




Put stock stuff back on and parted that stuff out on CL and H-T.
As many know....it can be a pain in the a$$ to deal with that stuff but I made my way to a little over $3k

Just want to say I know this is expensive and there are so many other possibilities for the car or.....
life in general with the money I spent but I have wanted this swap for a very long time.

This swap takes a lot to absorb and make educated decisions. There are so many options and companies.
I researched for a very long time....lots of reading.
And, thanks to the K20A.org and their knowledgeable minions, I have left K-series nOOb status.....finally.
So.....just as food for thought.....Extra super nOOb questions can be found with Google and time....I did it and so can you!

Got a K20A complete swap from HMO (including PRC ECU, Shift box/cables, USDM Type S axles).
It was wrapped/padded/strapped/padded and took 10 minutes to get the swap ready for the picker lol





Put a RBC Intake Manifold on (nice deal BNIB from Honda dealership online)
Karcepts TB adapter and Hondata IMG.
Hybrid Racing Fuel Rail (bought by my woman for our anniversary )
Black Fuel Lines and FPR ready to go on
K20Z3 Idler Pulley and a 7 rib Napa 51in belt (easy way to run without PS and AC) Easiest thing I have done on it yet lol





Greasy dirty jobs in hot weather so I did not take any pics of the Clutch install but I used a OEM Throw Out Bearing and Competition Clutch stg4 clutch kit. Did it like I own a Helm's Manual

Engine Bay after 3 Different motors in and out....each time was unique. Times were with friends who know whats up...to a friend that was a paper wieght...to me by myself.
...Sweating , getting frustrated and becoming more gorilla than calm/collected





So I took the old Trans mount off with some drilling of the 12 spot welds and took it to a local
PPG store where they matched the color into a rattle can for less than $10 OTD. I didn't really care
that much and just wanted something cheap (b/c I don't wanna save anymore) I will take after pics once
I've buffed out the old paint to blend but I am stoked with the results for $13 (got two grades of wet sandpaper and the rattle can)




I was able to get the motor/trans in last night. Had two friends to help (yes, please)
Hasport Mounts installation was really easy (didn't like the Standard Size bolts it came with but they're much cleaner than what I had).
Used my cherry picker and engine leveler (Harbor Freight = Shadetree Mechanics Win). Painter's Tape was placed around for some damage control
Motor went in as easy as any B-series in my chassis. Just tried to be smart and slow....for once (don't wanna mess up the rattle can job....yo).
Nothing hooked up.......just mounted




I will add more later. Its hot....like hot and humid for CA right now so I am being a lazy bum for today.
Charge Harness/Grounds will most likely be next.

As of now (especially b/c of funds) its gonna be rolling the Virgin PRC ECU (easy mod to make it work).
Its fine with H/I/E on the motor it was meant for
(even with vodoo differences between Japanese octane and elevation vs. the weak a$$ 91 octane and the valley)
And.....I PROMISE K-Pro will be happening so lets just leave it at that
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My Old B16 Swap (Spring '09) w/CTR cams/springs.
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/
My EH3 with a K-swap
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...-r-egg-519537/

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Old 07-22-2011, 09:06 PM   #2
 
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I forgot that I had Karcepts 4X100 Hubs. They will accept the USDM Type S Axles once I swap the inner joints (36mm nut).
New OEM bearings for my car and had a machine shop press them in (w/my flywheel re-surface and my 1992 OEM rotors turned)

OEM and Karcepts



The Two new hubs pressed in and the OEM next to them.



On my meshies.....the Hubs come with ARP studs

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My Old B16 Swap (Spring '09) w/CTR cams/springs.
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/
My EH3 with a K-swap
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...-r-egg-519537/

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Old 07-22-2011, 09:17 PM   #3
 
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And the ASP K-swap header that I got on a group buy (2.5" outlet to 2.5" cat to transition to 3" to Vibrant Muffler)



The Vibrant 3" muffler

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Old 07-22-2011, 09:38 PM   #4
 
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Sweet.
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Damn the thread is almost over. Good job though.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:27 PM   #6
 
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sweetness... glad to see its getting done so soon.. i figured we'd have to wait a while
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:50 PM   #7
 
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Good job chris looks damn good I'm Hella digging that r motor
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Yes indeed! That outta be fun fun fun!!!!
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Damn the thread is almost over. Good job though.
Sadly.....it still seems like I have a lot to do. Gotta cut my hole for the shift box. Welding the 2.5"-3" transition to a flange and to the 3" exhaust.....haven't welded in years and never welded on exhaust Lets see what I can do on my dad's Miller 110
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What about weight for the engine/tranny assembly compared to stock? Changes to front springs required? Looks fabulous BTW.

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Old 07-23-2011, 11:03 AM   #11
 
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Hard for me to compare to stock motor (D16Z6) b/c its been so long since I had it in (1998)

In comparison to a B-series swap.......it sits about the same right now......but with no fluids and such.

Here it sits this morning: Neuspeed 2.25", KYB shocks (last legs) 205 50 R15 Meshies




And I found these on CL for a good deal (lots of thread left) But I do not think they will roll lol.
13X8 22" Slicks with a +4 offset. So I probably need adj coil overs and roll 4X4 style




Here is the scary part about lowered K-swaps.......oil pan clearance about 2-13/16".......so lets say almost 3" to be optimistic

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My Old B16 Swap (Spring '09) w/CTR cams/springs.
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/
My EH3 with a K-swap
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...-r-egg-519537/
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i would run coilovers.. not worth the risk wiping out the oil pan on a speed bump
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:46 AM   #13
 
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Its technically more clearance than the ITR header on my B16. With that skid plate I had..... it was at least a 1/2" lower.
But there is a big difference between a little header dent and oil pan go bye bye.
Traction bar is kind of a must too (I am imagining some hard core chatter) and it works as a line of defense (oil pan def-con 3)
I will get some coil overs later although I want a nice quality adj coil/shock set like Tein's but they are pricey!
Depending on the driving clearance issues......I may need to get the coil overs before K-Pro.....but I don't like that idea lol

EDIT: Magana told me there is a vendor selling cheap traction bars but I cannot find the thread
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My Old B16 Swap (Spring '09) w/CTR cams/springs.
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/
My EH3 with a K-swap
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...-r-egg-519537/

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Old 07-23-2011, 12:09 PM   #14
 
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That oil pan is scary!!!!
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:55 PM   #15
 
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There are a few guys on K20A.org that are tucked like crazy. Some people think they are crazy!
Most guys run about 3/8-1/2" higher than me. I been rolling low for a long time. I got the speed bumps under control (hairy ones are avoided)
But I am just worried about a combination of suspension flex and an irregularity in the road.

Just took my A/C out from under the dash. Can someone inform me about the blower? Its like the heater core is under the stereo....then the A/C unit (box with fittings for A/C lines in engine bay) and then there is a blower????? (next to ECU location)

Does my car have a separate blower for A/C?
I now have a huge hole where the A/C unit attached to the heater core.....does Honda make a block off plate?? (they must for non-A/C cars sold brand new)
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My Old B16 Swap (Spring '09) w/CTR cams/springs.
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/
My EH3 with a K-swap
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...-r-egg-519537/
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Good job chris looks damn good I'm Hella digging that r motor

We'll be hooking up soon. Hell after that sweet deal I gave you on my B16 tranny.....you are going to work some magic with your tuner and sweet talk him so I can get me some quality tune time once K-Pro is in
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:57 PM   #17
 
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Nice! Raise that car up and protect your investment.

Even denting your oil pan will result in potential oil pressure drops.
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:40 PM   #18
 
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I've got a Jimfab traction bar set I need to unload- interested?
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I've got a Jimfab traction bar set I need to unload- interested?
My funds are extra tight (no credit card funding for this project) but, if it fits my EG, I will be interested in a month.

If you can.....PM what you want for it.
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:34 AM   #20
 
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congrats on the new baby
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:36 PM   #21
 
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Did some work on it this morning.

Took apart the looms and electrical tape (lots of it) on the passenger side harness (engine harness was intertwined w/other electrical)






I took it apart so I could pull the non-needed engine harness plugs through the firewall and I got them zipped tied right now.




This is as far as the JDM K-harness goes (suppose to go to the other side ) but I will make it work



Also.....no power steering but a power steering rack. Many will replace the rack with a manual one. Its $70-80 and then you got to install it.....then get it aligned.
I decided to loop the 2 main lines and cap the one that is made to cool the fluid (still need to buy the bolt to plug it).
Couldn't find metric fittings that had a barbed end so I went with adapters to AN fittings.
This way I can run OEM or MR2 PS later (if I want)
Wished I could have made the lines a little shorter (cleaner looking) but the T-fitting made it hard.

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My Old B16 Swap (Spring '09) w/CTR cams/springs.
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/
My EH3 with a K-swap
http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...-r-egg-519537/
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:34 AM   #22
 
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My funds are extra tight (no credit card funding for this project) but, if it fits my EG, I will be interested in a month.

If you can.....PM what you want for it.
Yup, fits the EG. Lemme dig around and I'll PM you.
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Old 07-25-2011, 02:26 PM   #23
 
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Nice job manGlad to see another K-swapped EG here. The K20A is a sweet motor and its nice you dont need Kpro right away to get it up and running, definitely down the road look into Kpro.

Just a note since I see you are using the RBC manifold, you will have to cut a little bit of the webbing from under the hood just to clear the vacuum line for the brake booster that comes off the manifold, but its no big deal.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:04 PM   #24
 
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Yeah......I got the area for the hood structure ready
I also have to run the Evap Purge on the TB (which I think it makes hood clearance worse)
Once I got K-Pro.....it wont matter but I do not want a CEL (running 2 O2 sensors too)
I'm going to cut a 3inch wide piece out of the structure.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:31 PM   #25
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Looking good man! good luck with the project!
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