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since you already have the turbo kit, and a b16 will drop right in (the si's came with them stock), spend 1500-1800 on the swap, buy a b series manifold, and slap the boost kit on that. itll make WAAAY more power than any swap, and be far cheaper and easier
H-Series is HP and TQ but are heavier and greatly affect your weight distribution and are known for having shitty transmissions.
If you want to turbo, find a B16A or B18C1. This will bring you to 160-180 HP stock.
You tell him to research, yet how much research have you actually done?
Yes, the H22 is heavier than a D or B-series engine, but not that much heavier. It's nothing that some stiffer springs won't fix. And having some additional weight over the front wheels isn't such a bad thing for a FWD vehicle. Also, who says the H-series have shitty transmissions? Shitty in what way?
And how are you figuring that a turbo will only bring a B-series engine up to 160-180 horses? You sound like you're just quoting numbers from an off-the-shelf turbo kit advertisement. 200+ wheel horse is certainly possible on a B16 or B18 with a good tune...
i may have worded that wrong... what i meant was a b16 or b18 were good candidates for turbo. a b16 is 160hp stock!! and b18 is 180hp stock.
notice on what you quoted me i said stock at the end. turbo on your car isn't stock.
I am simply stating my opinion from research i've done. if you disagree then, show me some proof to back your theory. otherwise we'll just go back and forth and that's gets people that seek help no where.
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I'm curious why you think more weight on the front of your car is better? that just gives the car more understeer which the del sol already has a bit of understeer to begin with.
An H swap in my opinion wouldn't be worth the hassle, when you can drop a B-series into without any problems, weight issues and achieve your goal.
It's a little over 100lbs. of difference, which is .1 second difference in the 1/4 mile. Put a larger rear sway on and the undeersteer issue solved. What you've stated has been proven to be internet myth.
Oh, and more weight over the front tires equals a greater traction potential. Just like how hot rod guys put weights in their trunks. Or why BMW recommends putting 150lbs. of ballast in the trunk to improve winter grip.
its prob the d16z6, really if you wanna get good power go for a ls vtec and get it turboed and make it JDM
shakeybones, step off, you're not sure what you're talking about, please don't post opinions that are wrong.
You're right, I did miss the part where you said stock, so my apologies. Still though, it doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about. Unless you're thinking of some obscure JDM version, the B18C only puts out 170 horses stock.
Most FWD cars have some degree of understeer. Like I said (and like Blanco said), it's nothing that can't be fixed with some stiffer springs and upgraded sway bars. As for why having that extra weight over the front wheels is better, see Blanco's response. It's the same reason people put sandbags in their truck beds during the winter; more weight over the drive wheels = better traction.
I'm not really trying to advocate one or the other, I'm just correcting the misinformation you're putting out. Like Blanco said, the H22 swap really isn't that much heavier than a B-series swap. It does add some additional weight, but so does any engine swap outside of another D-series.
what exactly is wrong with my opinion? Below is my original post. please explain to me how my opinion is wrong? I'm not saying i know everything, my opinion is based ofshakeybones, step off, you're not sure what you're talking about, please don't post opinions that are wrong.
That is incorrect!
The Honda Del Sol S is a D15 (1.5L SOHC)
The Honda Del Sol Si is a D16 (1.6L SOHC)
The Honda Del Sol VTEC is the B16A3. The VTEC model was put out 94-97
If you're looking to do an engine swap on your car. you really need to do your research! use google and search functions on this forum and any forum you find for Del Sol's.
The easiest swap for a del sol is going to be a B16A (since it came factory) or a B18C1 (the GSR).
Considering your weak knowledge on cars in general. This will be a tough task for you. READ READ READ!!!! RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!
K-Series is a great engine, but very costly!
H-Series is HP and TQ but are heavier and greatly affect your weight distribution and are known for having shitty transmissions.
If you want to turbo, find a B16A or B18C1. This will bring you to 160-180 HP stock.
If you want more TQ you might consider frankenteining your engine. This is a challenge cuz you're taking a B20 non-vtec block and mating it with a B16 or B18 VTEC head. It can be done and is probably your best bang for your buck... if you know what you're doing. This engine can go both ways, either N/A or FI depending on how you set it up and tune it.
Any engine is worthless without a tune if you're gonna hook it up.
Before you take anyone's word for it on this forum or any forum, do your self some research first. Find out for yourself! It's really the best way and to make sure you're not getting a line of shit from peeps.
my 2 cents!
The B18C1 puts out 178HP stock. every company i have found selling engines or complete swaps shows specs of that engine putting out that much HP. Seeing several different companies selling this engine with the same specs leads me to believe this is mostlikely true.
JDM B18C GSR 92-95 JDM RACING MOTORS - JDM Engines, Transmissions and Accessories.
I never disagreed on this fact.
agreed, however the Del Sol came stock with a B-series engine not an H-series. why go thru additional upgrades putting an H22 in your del sol when you're just gonna boost it anyways. you can be just as happy with a B-series.
research i have done has mainly been on engine rebuilding, turbo's and B-series engines. i haven't researched D-series, well cuz i'm not really interested in SOHC. nor have i researched H-series engines either. I'm far from saying I've done all the research and studying i can do, but the more i dive into swaps into a del sol, i repeatedly see negative things about an H in a del sol.
if it were me and i had the money i would just gsr swap it and save the turbo waste gate and bov, then get a new waste gate dump tube (manifold) for the gsr and turbo the gsr. then you could get new cams and cam gears and bs like that to bring your boost up. easiest thing possible i think (well besides a b16 swap cuz the mounts are in practically every car lot/junkyard, and they cost nothing cuz you can get then as a factory replacement)
That is incorrect!
The Honda Del Sol S is a D15 (1.5L SOHC)
The Honda Del Sol Si is a D16 (1.6L SOHC)
The Honda Del Sol VTEC is the B16A3. The VTEC model was put out 94-97
If you're looking to do an engine swap on your car. you really need to do your research! use google and search functions on this forum and any forum you find for Del Sol's.
The easiest swap for a del sol is going to be a B16A (since it came factory) or a B18C1 (the GSR).
Considering your weak knowledge on cars in general. This will be a tough task for you. READ READ READ!!!! RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!
K-Series is a great engine, but very costly!
H-Series is HP and TQ but are heavier and greatly affect your weight distribution and are known for having shitty transmissions.
If you want to turbo, find a B16A or B18C1. This will bring you to 160-180 HP stock.
If you want more TQ you might consider frankenteining your engine. This is a challenge cuz you're taking a B20 non-vtec block and mating it with a B16 or B18 VTEC head. It can be done and is probably your best bang for your buck... if you know what you're doing. This engine can go both ways, either N/A or FI depending on how you set it up and tune it.
Any engine is worthless without a tune if you're gonna hook it up.
Before you take anyone's word for it on this forum or any forum, do your self some research first. Find out for yourself! It's really the best way and to make sure you're not getting a line of shit from peeps.
my 2 cents!
exhaust manifold (i know wat a waste gate is) and cams do add power i wasnt necessarily saying that for more boost.
then you could get new cams and cam gears and bs like that to bring your boost up.