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B18C type R or K20A for 92-95 HATCH

Discussion in 'HYBRID -> EG-EK / DC' started by bistec, Mar 9, 2007.

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k20 or b18c?

  1. k20a type r

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  2. b18c type r

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  1. bistec

    bistec Project EH23

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    If you have to choose between this two engine for your next swap in a 92-95 civic hatch , wich one will it be and why ?

    Here are the numbers::question:

    B18C (TYPE R) : 200Hp , 134Trq 11.1 Compression(JDM) Price: $4000-$5000 .
    ($5000-$6000 after swap done)

    K20A (RSX type R) : 220 Hp 158Trq 11.5 Compression (JDM) Price: $ $4500-$5600
    ($6500-$8000 after swap done)
  2. AHHVTEC

    AHHVTEC Well-Known Member

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    well it will cost about 10 grand when its all said and done for the k20a, so if you got the money id go with the k its hondas newest motor, it more reliable and affecient,and will walk the b18 in the same car. the b18 is a good motor also but in my opinion the k is a all around better motor
  3. b18c1vic

    b18c1vic Junior Member

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    If you got the money got with the k20 for sure.
  4. slammedvtec

    slammedvtec New Member

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    k serise is all about money if u dont have it u arnt gonna get it or be able to upgrade it where as b serise upgrades are just getting cheaper and cheaper because everyone is turning to k serise..
  5. Del Slo

    Del Slo New Member

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    is the k20's 20whp worth $2,000 plus? Just add a Jackson racing supercharger on the Type R and push 280whp for the same price as the either K20 swap...
  6. Bruno D.

    Bruno D. New Member

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    jdm type cheaper almost the same hp with smaller displacement
  7. AHHVTEC

    AHHVTEC Well-Known Member

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    the k has alot more tork,
  8. bistec

    bistec Project EH23

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    10k for a swap! That's huge!
  9. bistec

    bistec Project EH23

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    Just because you got the money? Why is it a better swap than a b18c R?
  10. AHHVTEC

    AHHVTEC Well-Known Member

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    thats why
  11. b18c1vic

    b18c1vic Junior Member

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    You generally get what you pay for...although I've heard h22's are pretty powerful for the cost, but there is a lot more work involved in swapping an h22. But either way k20a>b18c-R
  12. werd2yourmother

    werd2yourmother JDM TYTE YO!

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    yeah if money isnt a problem, i would go with the K. I've seen k20's with bolt ons(i/h/e, kpro, cam) put down 250+ to the wheels. No b-series can do that
  13. rawerz

    rawerz New Member

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    Well I'll speak from personal experience, I own a K20a Type R Ek Coupe. IF you have the money and time to complete the swap it's completely worth it. The K20a R is far superior than ANY B series motor stock vs stock. The lsd 6 speed transmission is also nice. The only down side is the cost. After 9-12 grand to install/tune it, be ready to spend a lot more on upgrades. Since these swaps are pretty new, including the engine being relatively new also, upgrades cost a pretty penny. 12's out of the box.

    If you need any info on the swap K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum is the best source on the web. IF you need any other information feel free to ask. ;]

    Watch this video. Pacman

    If you do decide to go with the B18C R, I'll race you anytime and make you hate yourself for not going K.
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  14. phunky.buddha

    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin

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    K. WAY more potential.
  15. 97hatch

    97hatch ?

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    geez people are still posting up the old pacman video o well its cool


    any ways if you have 10-12k go k if you have 5-7k go b18c5 if you have 3-6k go b18c1 or you could probaly do a crvtec for about 4-7k also
  16. eg6sir

    eg6sir Supa Mod Moderator

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    i hate these "this motor" vs. "that motor" threads.. there is soo many different opinions on the topic it usually ends up in an arguement..:p
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  17. Del Slo

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    I have a GSR in my del sol... makes 160whp with kpro... it took me $5K... $5K less than a k20... Thats $5k more to spend on upgrades... I/H/E $1,000... High Boost JR Supercharger $3K... Cams, springs, port-matching another $1k... So now, if you would have done an ITR swap with the mods here you would have spent the same amount as a k20 swap... Now buck for buck... a stock k20 is NADA compared to a boosted ITR... stock for stock the k20 rules... but if you got 10K burning a hole in your pocket... do the ITR swap with the mods... more torque and more whp... about 300whp and 200 torque... that would kick a stock k20! My GSR del Slo can keep up with a stock K20 now...
  18. bistec

    bistec Project EH23

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    So with $9-$10k you can have an itr engine that will make a $10k k20 swap look like a d15b8? Interesting!:g: :g:
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  19. rawerz

    rawerz New Member

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    Del Slo you wouldn't live in Texas, ehh?
    What k20 can you keep up with? A k20a2, K20a3? BIG difference from the K20a Type R.
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  20. rawerz

    rawerz New Member

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    Del Slo is right according to Bang for the Buck. If you plan on going full build over time I would spend the extra 5k. It really depends on your goal. Short-term your ITR would maybe be a little faster with 5k mods but if your trying to accomplish a long-term build and you have patience/funds K-series is the way to go. The K-series is almost an untapped and such a new series via mods. Of course its going to cost more.

    A fully built K>B.
    A stock K>B
    A turbo'd K>B
    A supercharged K>B
    The K series will always have more potential, end of story.



    I mean what exactly is your goal? What are you trying to accomplish with this particular build?


    Besides I love hearing "OOOOOO AWWWWWWWW OOOOOOO" everytime I pop the hood ;p.
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