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Fully built Z6. 11:1 comp. I have a few questions.

Discussion in 'Engine Building' started by Andrew, Nov 27, 2006.

  1. Andrew

    Andrew Well-Known Member

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    1. What oil should I use? 20-50 Syn. blend? Full synthetic?(for break in and the rest of it's life)

    2. Whats the best spark plugs to use that I can buy at Advanced auto? I think I should run 1 range colder plugs. Am I right?
    Thanks
     
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    1. 10w-30 seems just as good use full syn blend is trash.
    2. NGK 7 range
     
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    So the normal range is 8?

    I think I'm going to use a little thicker oil. I was recommended by a knowledgeable friend that 2050 is good stuff. someone back me up?
     
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    No normal i think is 5 or 6. with ngk 7 or 8 is colder than 5 or 6.
     
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    formby learning in progress

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    +1

    and break in with regular 5-30 or 10-30

    then use synthetic.

    ams oil is my fav
     
  6. phunky.buddha

    phunky.buddha Admin with a big stick Admin VIP

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    10w30. Don't use the 20w50. You don't want the extra drag.
     
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    I agree, stick with 10w30 and you should be just fine. With that compression, you're best off running plugs 2 steps colder than the factory heat range, which would be the NGK TR7's. TR55's are factory heat range.
     
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    i use 0-w20 in my honda engine ,mobile one
    or 5-w20 torco syntec
    but regardless break it in in non syntec, non detergent oil
     
  9. Taco15

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    20-50 is way thick. I used cheapo oil for the first 500 break in miles or so. hen went to mobil-1, 10-30 full synth. Now that the motor isnt running as hot i swicthed to 5-w30.

    i'm using ngk BKR6E-11 plugs from advanced auto parts. Just ask for plugs for a gsr. TYpeR'a are BKR7's.

    that is all.
     
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    I'll be breaking it in on a basemap only. (Staying out of vtec.. no high revs)
    Then after 500 mi or so I'll have my buddy(tuner) sit in the passenger seat with Crome and a wideband, and tune it exactly to my motors specs. (different senarios- highway, street, racing, etc)

    I guess I'll run 10w30.

    Thanks everybody.
    I guess I'll go with the NGK TR7's then. Sound good and gravy?
     
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    I got a question guys. I got a stock B16A, can I just use regular oil? I been doing it, using plain Exxon 10w-30. but was wondering if thats good.
     
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    Your fine. A b16 is nothing 'special'... Your doin fine!
     
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    honestly for a good break-in with a fresh motor, this is my belief for the best outcome:

    upon first startup, run for about 5 minutes, then increase RPMS to about 3000 and let it sit there for another three or four minutes. shut it off, drain the oil. fill it back up with oil, and take it out and run it for a while. don't run it too hard. get yourself a decent basemap thats safe enough to go play around in. run it hard but not too hard. change the oil again and you should be good.
     
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    Oh... ok. Just for keepsakes, does anyone agree with spoolin@idle? sounds like a decent way to do it.

    Blanco, the only reason I don't take it straight to the dyno is 1. it won't be tuned(and I'm waiting to get tuned before I go), and 2. I'd rather not pay dyno fee's if it's the first run, and it blow-up or something.
    I can blow it up on the street for free, but I have to pay to do it and get a stupidly-cool graph showing it... =)

    I like the way spoolin's idea sounded. I'm very open minded, so if anyone wants to chime in.....
     
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    Abel-


    How did you break in your engine?
    That could be why you have bad blowby problems!!!

    Edit. Don't want to make a triple post-



    I guess that answers my oil question
     
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    Ohh.. ok. I guess I misunderstood!

    I can't wait to get it on the dyno and get some #'s!
     
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    I drove it for a while staying out of vtec due to the bigger cams. i did this with the Pw0 ecu from the old setup. That way it ran just a tad lean for more oil to seap in and let the rings sit. By the way i used carquest 10-w30 oil. Again i stayed out of vtec. okkk maybe once or twice did i turn it to 7k. Not very often since it got slower in vtec. Anyway,I let my mom drive it for another 500 miles and then i changed the oil to mobil1 synthetic. Ran it for another month until i went obd1 and had Eddie tune it. Once it was tuned i beat on it like there was no tommorow. Vtec ripped the tires and i loved it.

    Blowby is coming from the valve cover. The air intake is sucking it up. Its fine now since i put a baffle in between. Now i just have to figure out why my 2 day old plugs are white:ph34r: but thats another story:p .


    keep up the good work andrew
     
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    huh. well, if you work on your car again please call me. I wanna help you out
     
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