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Discussion in 'Engine Building' started by alterdcreations, Jul 31, 2006.

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    real easy question
    can super tech valve springs+retainers be used with crower stage 3 cams?
    also can they be used with skunk 2 cams.
    the motor will be reved to 8600 rpms.
    full stage 2 alterdcreations head work with stock valves
    i will be using a stock usdm bottom end with apr rod bolts and coated main and rod bearings
     
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    pretty sure the answer is yes. ive never used supertech parts, but ive heard good things from people that have used them.
     
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    you are answering alot of my questions
    do you thing that crower stage 3 cams will work with supertech valvetrain?
     
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    who makes the biggest cams for the h22a n/a performance?
     
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    i would assume jun. cam specs are very very misleading, so i really cant answer that, but i know jun has one of the best n/a cams.
     
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    with us makers. $ is a big factor..the cam really depends on the outcome of the head built. if the dyno come up with around 210 with out the cams then i will go for max power. but if i turbo i dont want to go with anything bigger than stage two. with cams are proven to make power in the 8000 -9000 rpm range?
     
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    has anybody used underground racing uas camshafts??
     
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    i have a porter head/ intake/throttlebody/fuel.
    i am thinking of stage 1 cams so i can retain my factory valve train.
    underground racing makes replicas and i might try his skunk 2 stage 1 after i get the engine running of the factory stuff/ maby type s but i want to rev to 8200-9000 if it makes power up their
     
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    also factory usdm bottom end
     
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    this is the head i am trying to rev up to 9000+
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    i think the reason that h22 stop making power high up is due to the moter starving for air. after i get the set up running i might change the rods and put stage i cams in. we will see how high i can make power with this bitch
     
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    its actually more because of the stroke. ive heard of f20b cranks being used (with f20b rods) and it not only helps with the compression, it helps with the ability to rev up high (shorter stroke).

    pair that with some rocket m24x cams, and youll be kickin some ass.
     
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    what are the guys with k24s revving to?
     
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    if they hit 8k id be suprised...i dont know for sure though.
     
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    i will try coated bearings and if it doesnt make power up their then i will rev it lower
     
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    i really want to rev to 8400 with the stock h22a4 rods but i dont know how long it will last.
     
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    I like to rev. that is my driving style. so i am trying to make more power everywhere but i am trying to focus on the top end expecialy since i am using a 1995 accord ex tranny so i will be streching 3rd and forth gear and using fifth for better fuel economy. follow build on http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-ba-bb-ca-cd/h22a-rpm-capability-71314/
     
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    the sleeves arent really that weak...its more the ring lands. frm sleeves are like comparing carbon fiber to metal. metal bends and takes a lot to break, but carbon fiber does have a higher tensile strength.

    i dunno, its almost 3 and i think i need to finish this after i get some sleep.
     
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    yep thats the plan.
    i will put it on the dyno see where it makes power at but the way i ported the head and the intake manifold along with the 74 mm throttle body that i am using should help with my goal.
    one of the only reason that i love hondas is because of their ablity to rev. the s2000 has the same stroke and bore and revs very high(also it has longer rods,taller deck). the only reason i am building the engine is see if i can make power up their. if i take it to the dyno
    and if my power dosent drop of at 8200 rpms then i will throw on some rods and valve springs and retainers and test it again.(that wll determin what cams that i will use. i like putting myself to new challanges. ionce ported a f22a head and ending spinning a bearing because the engine started to like high rpms. i hope the same thing happens hear but i will change the rods. i honestly do not consider a 2.2 liter moter a large displacement motor.i also see guys putting stroker kits in b series engine with a 92mm stroke and 84mm pistons turning 9000+rpms. i think it would be fun finishing this engine and finding out its limits. i have seen a h22 rev to 9000 on the dyno and the power dropped dramaticaly after 8000rpms.
    i will be intresting. any ay its all good as long as i make power
     
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    i like to let me engine breath. strech out the gears. clear out the lungs.
    i also used to run my last engine with a 3 inch coldair with no air filter just a velosity stack and chicken wire steel mesh so no animals or leaves get in there.
     
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