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Jujitsu used in the streets

Discussion in 'Members' Lounge' started by Capt. Orygun, Oct 10, 2009.

  1. Capt. Orygun

    Capt. Orygun Win the Day

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    To be fair, I think Blanco meant real life as in most of the time it's not just a one on one type of fight. BJJ is HIGHLY effective in a one on one fight but if there is someone else around who is gonna jump in you can guarantee i'm not going for a damn arm bar or a rear naked...
     
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    K2e2vin Senior Member

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    I really don't know what I'm looking at....pretty choppy.

    But yes, BJJ is definitely more effective in a 1 on 1 combat situation. If there's people around, you want to keep distance. You can call me a bitch if you want to, but if it's me vs. 2 or 3 people...I'll go for quick shots then run or just straight up run away. Fuck that, I'm not getting my ass kicked....let alone being incapacitated.
     
  4. Cashizslick

    Cashizslick !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!

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    He sunk that shit in DEEP.

    Game over.
     
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    jeffie7 Wrong Whole! VIP

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    Self defense is not about fighting, it's about keeping yourself safe.

    NEVER go to the ground outside of a controlled environment, if you do it on the streets you'll just have someone else walk over and kick you in the head.

    whats with the BJJ this and BJJ that shit? people have been doing BJJ style karate for a few hundred years, however, BJJ was the first group of people to go mainstream with it. I have books dating back pre 1900s with info on the same things they do.

    MMA and BJJ just piss me off, its such a fad that everyone wants to say they do.

    People also need to remember, when fighting in a cage, you cannot do small joint locks (bending fingers back all the way) or a handful of easy to apply chokes. Lets not forget hitting bawls, or biting. Most of the time when 2 people lock together on the ground, either person can easily bite or dig at the other persons eyeball or hook their finger into the sideof their mouth cheek and dig at the flesh.

    Oh wait, that's not BJJ that's TRUE self defense, that has been practiced for YEARS.
     
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    nootrac22 Well-Known Member VIP

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    S&W> BJJ every time
     
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    jeffie7 Wrong Whole! VIP

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    tell that to me the next time you're out in public without your gun and get grabbed and dragged to the ground.

    I would gladly take my Sig 229 if I had a guy trying to come after me, however after the guy latches on that gun becomes a tool for both the attacker and defender.

    Most fights don't start out in a planned manor, they just happen.
     
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    Thats why duels need to be brought back into mainstream, and made legal again of course. :D
     
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    that guy would have been rocked if the dude in the yellow had his friends back
    i'm guessing the one with no shirt on was drunk
     
  10. SlushboxTeggy

    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    I can vouch for that. I have a new scar to remind me not to. I was on top of a kid, his friend grabbed me by the shoulder, and clipped me on the chin with a big ol' ring on. I thought it was a 1 on 1 fight, but apparently I was the only one. Turned into a huge brawl.

    I do love when people try to tap out in a street fight. That's not the first time I've seen it.

    As for "claiming MMA", I call people out on it all the time. Just ask them what their record is, where they fight out of, where was their last fight, etc. If they have never been in a ring/cage, tell them they're a fucking poser.
     
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    This isn't always the case. There's a guy I hang out with at school who trains MMA but he's only competed in wrestling (high school and some college) so far. He doesn't have a pro record or a camp to claim (he trains with his uncle, who does have a few pro fights under his belt though, i'll ask what camp his uncle claims) but he's the real deal. I've seen a few of his sparring videos. All around, he's pretty damn good for someone who has wrestled since he was 14 (he's now 22) and has done MMA for about 2 years.
     
  12. phyregod

    phyregod !!YTINASNI

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    You should try carrying a gun. You become the most passive person on the planet, because you know for damn certain that if shit hits the fan, you are going to kill someone.

    Complete paradigm shift.


    Its almost more fun to be unarmed.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. Well I think that is the experience you have if you are a legit law abiding citizen that actually thinks about what packing really means.
     
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    You can have 3 months of karate, 6 months boxing and some high school wrestling and you're now a MMA trained fighter.

    I think MMA should never be a term for any fighter unless they have 10+ years combined experience of all the different styles.

    10 styles trained at the same time over 1 year doesn't count either.
     
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    phyregod !!YTINASNI

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    Crane Kick ftmfw.
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    "If do right, no can defend"
     
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    E_SolSi Member of the 20 nut club Moderator VIP

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    :concur:
     
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    SlushboxTeggy It's only stupid if it doesn't work VIP

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    He doesn't sound like the typical Affliction wearing d-bag I run into at the bar that has a half-assed idea how to throw a rear naked and is "about to turn pro".

    I imagine his response to the question is similar to mine. Reserved and truthful.
    Them-Do you train MMA?
    Me-I was a good wrestler in high school, but no. I have friends that fight. All my MMA training is from them when were all drunk.
    I agree with that, but most of my friends who train had a little boxing and street fighting experience before they joined a gym. 3 I'm thinking of now have trained in multiple styles since they joined. While 10 styles over 1 year is nothing, 10 styles over 5-6 years makes some great fighters. But all 3 are also objective about their own skills.

    Ryan sucked at wrestling/ground, he trained ground like crazy until that skill was on par with the others. Shaun was a terrible striker. Mike's BJJ was terrible. They all found their weak points and continue to train to be well rounded fighters.

    In my opinion, real fighters are generally more reserved about their abilities. Generally more calm and less angry then when they started.
     
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    It took me about 5 years to learn the foundation of a true martial art. After that point, everything started to make sense then I knew, holy shit, I dont know jack!

    That is with real training not just going to a gym and rolling around with guys.

    Bottom line, most all MMA guys have no clue what a real martial art is, they train to sport fight, they are like people who jump on the jesus bandwagon because they saw the light, mean while they have zero clue about 90% of the stuff in the bible.

    Sport fighters make for shitty self defense fighters, pretty much every "camp" teaches people how to sport fight nothing more.

    weird how the biggest baddest guy in the dojo when getting on the ground with an instructor will cry like a baby when they get a finger bent back by someone 50lbs lighter

    wahhhhhh you cant do that wahhhhhhhhh I wouldnt have tapped out wahhhhhhhh
     
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    Self-defense fighting is way different than sport fighting. There are no rules and all you're trying to do is inflict as much pain and bodily hurt on an individual/s as you can. In a real fight you can expect that your opponent isn't going to be so generous as to not kick you in the bawls or try to stab your eyes out or pull at your ears or hair, biting always works too, especially if blood in your mouth doesn't bother you. Thumbs and fingers usually break pretty easily too, as do noses.
     
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    The point of a gun is to kill from a distance. If you have a gun and pull it, you should be ready to use it. Now if you let someone negate the advantage of distance that's your fault.

    Yes, I agree. It's the confidence that comes with carrying, along with the somber reality of the responsibility and consequences of carrying a gun.
     
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