Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jul 11 2005, 12:18 PM
Shit, I'd get my 60K AND have his badge for a money clip.
Cleared of wrongdoings? She didn't have the right lawyer.
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Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jul 11 2005, 12:18 PM
Shit, I'd get my 60K AND have his badge for a money clip.
Cleared of wrongdoings? She didn't have the right lawyer.
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Originally posted by reikoshea@Jul 11 2005, 09:49 AM
hellz yeah....some burnin eyes and wheezing is a small price to pay for my new car....teehee
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Originally posted by B16RacerN2NR+Jul 11 2005, 09:10 PM-->reikoshea@Jul 11 2005, 09:49 AM
hellz yeah....some burnin eyes and wheezing is a small price to pay for my new car....teehee
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you are an idiot. have you ever been pepper sprayed or maced? my guess is no. Having your vision altered permanently isn't worth fucking 60k. after lawyer fee's and what-not, she probably saw half.
I haven't been pepper sprayed in my eyes but everyone of my friend's who has either been sprayed while they were locked up or in a crowd that got sprayed said their vision has NEVER returned to normal. I've been pepper sprayed on the side of my face because I closed my eyes and turned away. that shit burns like a motherfucker.
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Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jul 11 2005, 11:18 AM
Cleared of wrongdoings? She didn't have the right lawyer.
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Originally posted by 92b16vx+Jul 11 2005, 03:28 PM-->Originally posted by B16RacerN2NR@Jul 11 2005, 09:10 PM
reikoshea@Jul 11 2005, 09:49 AM
hellz yeah....some burnin eyes and wheezing is a small price to pay for my new car....teehee
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you are an idiot. have you ever been pepper sprayed or maced? my guess is no. Having your vision altered permanently isn't worth fucking 60k. after lawyer fee's and what-not, she probably saw half.
I haven't been pepper sprayed in my eyes but everyone of my friend's who has either been sprayed while they were locked up or in a crowd that got sprayed said their vision has NEVER returned to normal. I've been pepper sprayed on the side of my face because I closed my eyes and turned away. that shit burns like a motherfucker.
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I'll drink a can of pepper spray, shit, hang out in a CS chamber and then cry about some pepper spray
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OK, I'll start with, Can someone show me a legitimate news source that says he wasn't disciplined? When this came out about 2 years ago, I was told he was terminated.
Now, having said that, let me explain a few points that most people, including many here, want to forget. When a police officer tells you, "You are under arrest" you do NOT have the right to resist that arrest. Period. You do not have the right to wait for your momma, you do not have the right to have your manager intervene. You are required BY LAW to obey the police officer, even if the police officer is wrong.
What we have here, other than an idiot cop, is a mentality that says you have the right to resist what you don't believe in. While, in most cases, I wholeheartedly agree with that, the simple truth is, the system has checks and balances in it that if the cop is wrong, you will still get off. Arguing with the cop will only make it worse. Do you REALLY want the law to be changed so that the cop is the one who makes the decision of guilt? Because, once the words, "You are under arrest" are spoken by a cop, the person is detained. The cop will take the person to jail and will use whatever force is necessary to accomplish that task. Once the person is in custody, the prosecution starts. That is when this would have been reviewed, and the clerk would have been set free. She STILL would have been awarded money (although, not as much) for the unlawful arrest, and he still would have been disciplined.
Now, as a side note, the only time you have the right to resist arrest is if the use of force being used is unreasonably excessive. In this case, he is telling her she is under arrest. She counters that with, "No I'm not." He then tries to escort her out of the restaurant. She resists that too. Next, he peppers her. He is escalating his use of force to accomplish something she is bound by law to do, and that is succumb to the arrest. Thus, she is making the situation worse, not him.
Finally, to clarify, I do not support this officer in what he did. He has violated several standards that I think would be more than enough for extreme discipline. Included would be: Getting involved in a situation where you are the victim (he should have called another officer). Pepper spraying someone in such a public place (he should have used other force to accomplish what he was doing. I mean, why not just go to a hospital and use pepper there too?). Most importantly though, not taking steps to insure his actions were appropriate. These are where he lacked professionalism in my opinion. But, I want to make it very clear, he would have still lacked several of these professional standards had she merely complied, which she is REQUIRED to do.
Originally posted by Estorvito+Jul 11 2005, 01:27 AM-->Lshatch916@Jul 11 2005, 05:17 AM
http://www.yikers.com/videos/yikers_cop_owns_himself.wmv
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Good MOrning Sunshine....
wow..NIce vid...Freaking cops...Im telling you some of them are just strait up assholes....
Well at least she got something out of it.....
By the way..what are you doing up so early? ahaaa!
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Originally posted by reikoshea@Jul 11 2005, 09:51 PM
Where are the charges at. When someone is arrested (not detained) arent the officers required by law to declare what you are being charged with. He said "You are under arrest." I was waiting for something along the lines of what happened when i was arrested...he told me i was going to jail for disorderly conduct and public intoxication. Makes sense to me...i dunno about yall.
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Originally posted by jeffie7@Jul 11 2005, 05:58 PM
This is from a fellow officer I talk to online who saw the video. Hes been on the force for a good 10+ years.
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Originally posted by E-dogg+Jul 12 2005, 09:20 AM-->jeffie7@Jul 11 2005, 05:58 PM
This is from a fellow officer I talk to online who saw the video. Hes been on the force for a good 10+ years.
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That was a very informative diatribe from you officer friend. He cleared a few things up for me personally and also pointed out some things I did not know. I still feel that it is very scary that according to the "law" once your told you are under arrest you are supposed to comply even if it is a false arrest.
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Originally posted by E-dogg+Jul 12 2005, 09:20 AM-->jeffie7@Jul 11 2005, 05:58 PM
This is from a fellow officer I talk to online who saw the video. Hes been on the force for a good 10+ years.
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That was a very informative diatribe from you officer friend. He cleared a few things up for me personally and also pointed out some things I did not know. I still feel that it is very scary that according to the "law" once your told you are under arrest you are supposed to comply even if it is a false arrest.
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Originally posted by corvetteguy+Jul 12 2005, 09:29 AM-->Originally posted by E-dogg@Jul 12 2005, 09:20 AM
jeffie7@Jul 11 2005, 05:58 PM
This is from a fellow officer I talk to online who saw the video. Hes been on the force for a good 10+ years.
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That was a very informative diatribe from you officer friend. He cleared a few things up for me personally and also pointed out some things I did not know. I still feel that it is very scary that according to the "law" once your told you are under arrest you are supposed to comply even if it is a false arrest.
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You know, there are probrably thousands of people like you out there...who don't know this either....and pull shit like that girl did, and then wonder why you got the billy club to the nutz......Rule #1 always obey what a cop says and don't act like a some fucking punk ass kid with a wise ass attitude...if you just shut up and cooperate, it will make it much easier on you....guilty or not guilty....
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Originally posted by corvetteguy@Jul 12 2005, 09:29 AM
You know, there are probrably thousands of people like you out there...who don't know this either....and pull shit like that girl did, and then wonder why you got the billy club to the nutz......Rule #1 always obey what a cop says and don't act like a some fucking punk ass kid with a wise ass attitude...if you just shut up and cooperate, it will make it much easier on you....guilty or not guilty....
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